IRC log of voiceinteraction on 2024-10-09

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meeting: Voice Interaction
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chair: debbie
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present:dirk, debbie, gerard
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dirk: Robin paper should help us figure out which kinds of assistants exist
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Value Co-creation in smart services: a functional affordances perspective
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(presentation will be posted to the mailing list)
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dirk: smart personal assistant doesn't need to be personal
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...there is not agreeded upon term
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... material properties are important, there's a taxonomy in the paper
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debbie: not sure how a robot would it into the hardware slot
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gerard: how does the sharing of your personal data with a cloud provider fit into this?
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dirk: handling of personal data doesn't fit, but that's the only thing I can think of
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could add a row for data sharing
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dirk: don't share, share encrypted to trusted parties, or share completely
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dirk: vectorized the SPA's and clustered them
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...reviews the clusters
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...three clusters, passive observers, chatbots, virtual anthropomorphic advisors
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...cluster 3 is the most common
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... 4th cluster is voice facilitators
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...can also control objects in a smart home
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...cluster 6 is general activity assistants, like Alexa
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s/three clusters/five clusters
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dirk: the interesting part is the 5 clusters
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dirk: what is the diffeence between voice facilitators and general activity assistants
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...perhaps adaptabiliyt
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...also voice facilitators are bound to a domain
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dirk: we should acknowledge that there are different kinds of agents and refer to them in our papers
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debbie: we could eliminate some clusters
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dirk: chatbots
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debbie: cluster 2, 3
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gerard: a personal assistant should not be shared with other users
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dirk: also in-scope are clusters 4 and 5
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debbie: we have to think of more user-friendly names
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...maybe cluster 4 and cluster 5 could have the same name
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debbie: our standards could apply to several clusters
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dirk: we should think about that
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debbie: we need to capture the personal/general assistant distinguished
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gerard: a personal assistant should not be shared
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dirk: two meanings of personal, one belongs to the user, also the personal assistant could adapt but the data could be shared
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...personal means that it knows the user
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...and it knows how the user acts
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dirk: this can cause some confusion
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dirk: user-adaptive means the ability to adapt to the user
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dirk: data shared outside the device
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debbie: they could add the row and recluster
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action: dirk to respond to Robin about the discussion today
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debbie: they could also include LLMs
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