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12:44:55 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jasonjgw
12:45:14 <jasonjgw> meeting: RQTF meeting
12:45:19 <jasonjgw> chair: jasonjgw
12:45:24 <jasonjgw> present+
12:45:26 <jasonjgw> scribe+
12:45:49 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Relevant outcomes of TPAC 2024.
12:45:49 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements.
12:45:49 <jasonjgw> agenda+ XR accessibility.
12:45:49 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Immersive captions.
12:45:50 <jasonjgw> agenda+ AI accessibility.
12:45:51 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous topics.
12:59:38 <janina> present+
13:03:53 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:03:53 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Relevant outcomes of TPAC 2024. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:05:04 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2024
13:05:26 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes the wiki page reflecting activities of APA at TPAC.
13:05:44 <jasonjgw> Janina: it's an active page under development.
13:06:08 <jasonjgw> Janina: this Task Force was highlighted at TPAC during the plenary session by reason of the AI accessibiity work, and along with WCAG.
13:06:36 <jasonjgw> There wasn't any particular feedback in response at the event.
13:07:03 <jasonjgw> Janina notes that APA Working Group rechartering is happening, with deliverables to be defined for July 2025 - July 2027.
13:07:34 <jasonjgw> Janina notes the joint meeting with AGWG - also recorded. Recording to be made available.
13:08:46 <jasonjgw> Janina notes that WCAG 3 includes a decision tree. Conformance depends on choices made in the decision tree (e.g., one could identify early on that particular work needs to be done).
13:09:04 <jasonjgw> This is an interesting approach.
13:09:28 <jasonjgw> Janina notes the joint meeting with EPUB, emphasizing that they're back into standards development (i.e., new material).
13:10:04 <jasonjgw> Janina notes discussions with the Media and Entertainment Interest Group.
13:10:27 <jasonjgw> Janina notes media-related provisions of E.U. regulations, citing our previous discussion of the same.
13:10:42 <jasonjgw> Previous minutes will be informative.
13:12:11 <jasonjgw> Janina: we plan to respond to questions arising during development of WCAG 3.
13:13:57 <jasonjgw> Scott: notes the decision tree seems interesting, and thanks Janina for a comprehensive report.
13:14:16 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:14:16 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:14:35 <janina> scribe+
13:15:00 <janina> jasonjgw: We received further comments from COGA post end of public review
13:15:20 <janina> jasonjgw: Notes additional list of issues
13:16:03 <janina> jasonjgw: Expectation to resolve what can be quickly resolved, then move to publication
13:17:18 <jasonjgw> Janina: Notes our next publication opportunity is in November, and this gives us time to make decisions on the issues recently raised by COGA, which janina thinks we should consider.
13:18:24 <jasonjgw> Janina: there is consensus that the document could communicate visually more effectively than it now does. We'll receive advice on formatting (of documents in general, not just this publication).
13:19:06 <jasonjgw> However, this is a post-publication change. There is great value in the document, and there is no desire to withhold publication to resolve such outstanding issues.
13:19:29 <jasonjgw> Janina proposes we create a label such as CTAUR-Next, so that some of these issues can be deferred to it.
13:20:01 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes issues logged since Monday.
13:20:41 <jasonjgw> Janina notes 16 new issues. Some of them are either CTAUR-next, or unclear; the rest are very actionable. Some are easily dopted.
13:20:55 <jasonjgw> Janina proposes to create a branch with the immediately actionable changes.
13:22:24 <jasonjgw> Janina: suggestion that we ensure the requirements are clearly within scope, e.g., requirements about notifications that could be applied to software design in general. We need to clarify the specificity of the problem to collaborative environments.
13:23:09 <jasonjgw> Scott: notes that the specific collaborative aspect arises from having multiple users and notifications arising from their interactions.
13:23:55 <jasonjgw> Janina agrees we can clarify the point.
13:24:45 <jasonjgw> Janina notes the specificity of the issues, which is welcome in contrast with the comments received a year ago, pointing to an improvement in issue raising by COGA.
13:25:12 <jasonjgw> Scott: suggests we impose a hard deadline on the review of open issues, shifting the remainder to post-publication work.
13:25:48 <jasonjgw> Janina proposes a CfC around 7-9 November.
13:26:17 <jasonjgw> Janina: issue #88 belongs in the next version of CTAUR.
13:26:17 <gb> Issue 88 not found
13:30:46 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:30:47 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- XR accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:31:30 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/immersive-captions
13:31:47 <Roy> https://w3c.github.io/immersive-captions/
13:32:03 <jasonjgw> Roy (responding to Janina): notes the Immersive Captions Git repository is prepared, and the editor's draft is in place.
13:32:25 <jasonjgw> Roy notes sections that need updating, including acknowledgments.
13:32:30 <jasonjgw> Also section 1.2.
13:33:13 <jasonjgw> Janina notes the need for messaging as well. Realistically, this won't be ready until early November.
13:34:15 <jasonjgw> We'll invite community group participants to assist with messaging.
13:36:12 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:36:12 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Immersive captions. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:36:32 <jasonjgw> Already addressed under XR.
13:36:44 <jasonjgw> zakim, close this item
13:36:44 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
13:36:45 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
13:36:45 <Zakim> 5. AI accessibility. [from jasonjgw]
13:36:55 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:36:55 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- AI accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:38:35 <jasonjgw> See the discussion of this item in connection with TPAC plenary session.
13:38:46 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:38:46 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Miscellaneous topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:39:14 <jasonjgw> Janina: no additional issues.
13:39:28 <jasonjgw> We can make considerable progress before holidays.
13:39:41 <jasonjgw> Jason: notes daylight saving changes.
13:40:13 <jasonjgw> Janina notes that Europe moves back to standard time first, followed by North America.
13:41:31 <jasonjgw> Janina notes that the Maturity Model work is heading to another public working draft.
13:42:40 <jasonjgw> zakim, take up item 5
13:42:40 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- AI accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:43:07 <janina> jasonjgw: Notes we're making improvement decisions pre FPWD
13:43:20 <janina> janina: Messaging we have!
13:44:44 <jasonjgw> Janina: we should review messaging from TPAC to prepare announcement materials for the first public working draft.
13:45:37 <jasonjgw> Janina: agrees with Scott that we start integrating scope/audience statements into the draft itself.
13:46:00 <jasonjgw> Janina: notes that this document and WCAG 3 were the two developments highlighted at the TPAC plenary session.
13:47:45 <jasonjgw> zakim, end meeting
13:47:45 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina
13:47:46 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
13:47:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/09-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
13:47:55 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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13:48:15 <jasonjgw> present+ scott_h
13:48:33 <janina> present+ Scott_H
13:49:26 <Roy> RRSAgent, make minutes
13:49:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/10/09-rqtf-minutes.html Roy
13:51:12 <janina> rrsagent, bye
13:51:12 <RRSAgent> I see no action items