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14:56:35 <tpac-breakout-bot> Meeting: Blending Realities: Building An Open Web Wide World
14:56:35 <tpac-breakout-bot> Chair: qqharryhwang, rocman
14:56:35 <tpac-breakout-bot> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/tpac2024-breakouts/issues/61
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22:59:52 <angel> zakim, this is Breakout session for Building An Open Web Wide World
22:59:52 <Zakim> got it, angel
22:59:56 <angel> chair: angel
22:59:59 <angel> scribe: xiaoqian
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23:03:04 <xiaoqian> slides: https://www.w3.org/2024/09/Blending_Realities_breakout_20240926.pdf
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23:04:03 <xiaoqian> Rocman: Working on Games for Social Network
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23:04:44 <xiaoqian> ... page 2: what's the Web Wide World: Tangible, Based on the Web, for the World Construction
23:04:52 <angel> https://w3c.zoom.us/j/83734263843?pwd=yPPv5jXoImEuci8Mkt9fHGRDAcLpnl.1
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23:06:07 <xiaoqian> ... page 3: Web Model VS something different (3D world but not only 3D)
23:06:30 <xiaoqian> ... Page 4: what does it mean by Tangible? - demo
23:07:39 <xiaoqian> ... [Video: a 3D character from a social network walking through a 3d building into a virtual Cafe]
23:07:58 <xiaoqian> ... [Video: payment for a coffee in the virtual world]
23:08:28 <xiaoqian> ... [in real world: you can pick up your coffee in the cafe]
23:09:25 <xiaoqian> ... Page 4: building the Web Wide World based on the Web - components and extending capacities
23:09:44 <xiaoqian> s/Page 4: building/Page 5: building
23:10:45 <xiaoqian> ... Page  6: demo - using HTML/CSS for UI and Unreal Engine (rendering) for the 3D character
23:12:05 <xiaoqian> ... Page 7: demo: using Dev Tool to debug the code like in a browser
23:12:13 <angel> q?
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23:14:33 <xiaoqian> ... Page 8: why we need to co-construction this world
23:15:38 <xiaoqian> ... Modules in the World: users on different platforms
23:16:12 <xiaoqian> ... Sites, such as a cafe, can interact with each other
23:17:06 <xiaoqian> ... users can interact with the Sites through programs
23:17:52 <xiaoqian> ... use cases for the world modules
23:18:56 <xiaoqian> ... there would be access files to manage the behaviour of the NPCs
23:19:31 <xiaoqian> ... How multiple sites be integrated into the world
23:20:02 <xiaoqian> ... they are working together as a coherent world
23:20:28 <xiaoqian> ... use case: Site 1 - Coffee shop, Site 2 - the Office Building
23:20:58 <xiaoqian> ... the coffee shop provides a service space, while the building is serving as a business hub
23:21:27 <xiaoqian> ... using URI to define the Origins of elements and Assets
23:22:04 <xiaoqian> ... each element has their own URI, but sharing the same Origin
23:22:53 <xiaoqian> ... so it's possible to maintain a well defined structure
23:23:23 <xiaoqian> ... the permission are defined with contracts
23:23:44 <Harry> sites can be devided into smaller cells, and cells can be combined
23:23:58 <xiaoqian> ... how we decouple a program and sites
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23:24:41 <xiaoqian> ... they are connected using contracts
23:25:42 <xiaoqian> ... deployment of the Assets: Routing by Origins
23:26:08 <xiaoqian> ... for access management
23:27:04 <xiaoqian> ... each Origin has its own version management
23:28:33 <xiaoqian> ... permission control: how program and sites can share the permission policy with other modules
23:29:34 <xiaoqian> ... contracts can serve as safeguards of the rights of modules
23:30:37 <xiaoqian> ... demo:  how multi-users interact with different spaces
23:31:27 <xiaoqian> ... how users migrate from the green space to the red space, behind that is different servers
23:32:03 <xiaoqian> ... how these servers are versioning by dates
23:33:08 <xiaoqian> ... the version management designed for multi-users
23:33:37 <xiaoqian> ... our vision for future standardisation effort and call for participation
23:34:00 <xiaoqian> s/... our vision/harry: our vision
23:34:32 <angel> q?
23:36:18 <xiaoqian> Josh: the slides is unavailable for now
23:36:35 <xiaoqian> harry: it's member-only for now
23:36:58 <xiaoqian> s/unavailable for now/unavailable
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23:37:31 <xiaoqian> angel: what's your plan for standardise and what can the w3c community do for you?
23:37:56 <xiaoqian> harry: this page shows multiple concepts for the virtual world
23:38:35 <xiaoqian> ... these basic modules needs be standardised
23:38:47 <xiaoqian> s/ needs be/ need to be
23:39:23 <xiaoqian> ... there are some gap between the classic Web modules and we are need for the virtual world
23:39:56 <xiaoqian> ... we have collect use cases and demos for these modules
23:40:29 <xiaoqian> ... we would like to explore the possibility to discuss these ideas within the W3C community
23:41:08 <xiaoqian> ... version management and permission control are also important part of the whole plan
23:41:19 <xiaoqian> s/important part/important parts
23:43:21 <xiaoqian> harry: wondering if the immersive CG will be the right place to incubate the idea?
23:43:37 <xiaoqian> ... our scope might be too big
23:43:59 <xiaoqian> ... we are looking forward to ideas from the community
23:44:39 <xiaoqian> [adjourned]
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