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13:07:14 <kaz> meeting: WoT Plugfest
13:07:17 <kaz> chair: Ege
13:07:22 <kaz> regrets+ Sebastian
13:08:00 <luca_barbato> topic: Minutes review
13:08:01 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Ege_Korkan, David_Ezell, Luca_Barbato, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Jan_Romann, Kunihiko_Toumura, Mahda_Noura, Michael_McCool, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:08:21 <luca_barbato> ege: It was the last call since the summer break
13:08:46 <luca_barbato> ege: <goes over the minutes>
13:08:55 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFest_WebConf#Agenda_18.09.2024
13:09:09 <kaz> i|It was the|-> https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-pf-minutes.html Aug-7|
13:09:09 <luca_barbato> ege: remarks?
13:09:14 <luca_barbato> <none>
13:09:15 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:09:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft mintue
13:09:18 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintue', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:09:19 <luca_barbato> ege: minutes approved
13:09:31 <kaz> s/rrsagent, draft mintue//
13:09:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft mintues
13:09:31 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:09:31 <McCool> q+
13:09:49 <luca_barbato> topic: Travel Plans
13:10:01 <cris> q+
13:10:07 <luca_barbato> ege: anybody needs to update their travel plans?
13:10:29 <luca_barbato> mm: We should add a column for remote attendees
13:10:40 <kaz> i|anybody|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_WoT_Week_2024_planning#Participants_(needs_to_be_updated) participants list|
13:10:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:10:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:11:01 <McCool> ack m
13:11:11 <kaz> q+
13:11:19 <luca_barbato> ege: anybody in the call can update their status
13:11:41 <kaz> ack c
13:11:56 <luca_barbato> lu: I can only participate remotely
13:12:48 <kaz> q-
13:13:03 <dezell> q+
13:13:28 <luca_barbato> kaz: I'm 100 present in person
13:13:45 <luca_barbato> mk: I'll attend remotely
13:14:31 <luca_barbato> miz: 50%
13:15:12 <kaz> i|was the last call|scribenick: luca_barbato|
13:15:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:15:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:16:08 <luca_barbato> de: 90% I'm trying to get Ignite people to come as well
13:16:54 <luca_barbato> ku: It can be bumped to 90%
13:17:15 <luca_barbato> ege: Some in the community group will come
13:17:30 <luca_barbato> dape: It is ~ 90%
13:18:24 <luca_barbato> topic: Technical Organization
13:18:25 <EgeKorkan> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2024.11.Munich
13:18:36 <luca_barbato> ege: we have two PR to look at
13:18:37 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
13:18:52 <kaz> s/Munich/Munich WoT Week logistics page on GitHub/
13:18:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:18:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:19:47 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/589 PR 589 - Update vpn_softetherbridge.md : to briged interaface will assiged with physical interface's MAC address.
13:20:14 <kaz> q+
13:21:13 <EgeKorkan> ack d
13:21:58 <kaz> ack k
13:22:22 <luca_barbato> ege: anybody has remarks?
13:22:56 <kaz> q+
13:24:21 <luca_barbato> lu: is it possible to setup a wireguard instance since this seems a bit complex?
13:25:03 <luca_barbato> kaz: This person isn't part of the IG or WG, we should contact this person
13:25:58 <kaz> s/person/person first/
13:26:12 <luca_barbato> ege: The other PR are some fixes for the readme
13:26:38 <kaz> i|The other|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/pull/590 PR 590 - Organization for November Plugfest|
13:26:43 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:26:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:27:05 <kaz> i|PR 589|subtopic: PR 589|
13:27:12 <kaz> i|PR 590|subtopic: PR 590|
13:27:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:27:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:28:09 <luca_barbato> ege: I prepared a per-organization directory to put additional information
13:28:54 <EgeKorkan> q?
13:28:57 <kaz> q-
13:29:38 <luca_barbato> ege: Let's merge it to start working on the table
13:30:29 <luca_barbato> ege: who is going to bring devices please update the table
13:30:40 <cris> q+
13:30:52 <kaz> s/This person first isn't part of the IG or WG, we should contact this person/As I've been mentioning, this point (=preparing VPN setting for remote participation) is very important for Plugfest, but this person isn't part of the IG or WG, so we should contact this person first./
13:30:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:30:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:31:08 <McCool> q+
13:31:11 <dezell> q+
13:31:35 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:31:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:31:53 <kaz> topic: Logistics - revisited
13:31:59 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-testing/tree/main/events/2024.11.Munich updated Logistics page
13:32:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:32:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:32:23 <kaz> q?
13:32:27 <EgeKorkan> q?
13:32:55 <luca_barbato> lu: I can freshen the simulated devices and if we manage with Jan we might also have the code run on esp32
13:33:25 <kaz> ack cr
13:33:39 <luca_barbato> cris: It is fine to mention potential devices even if it is not sure yet we can bring them? Next week we should know
13:33:51 <EgeKorkan> q?
13:34:34 <kaz> q+
13:34:35 <luca_barbato> mm: Do we have specific domains to targets? e.g. Smart Home, Industrial, Smart Cities
13:35:01 <kaz> ack mc
13:35:26 <luca_barbato> ege: Anybody has ideas for top-down topics ?
13:36:03 <luca_barbato> mm: I'm thinking of Smart Home fields
13:36:24 <luca_barbato> mm: thinking of AI speech targeting devices
13:36:35 <luca_barbato> s/devices/services/
13:37:24 <EgeKorkan> q?
13:37:58 <luca_barbato> de: We might might bring some ArmorSafe devices
13:38:29 <kaz> ack de
13:38:37 <luca_barbato> de: I should bring the logic unit and not the full 400kg device
13:39:14 <McCool> q?
13:39:20 <McCool> q+
13:40:11 <luca_barbato> de: Ignite, if present might bring simulated devices
13:40:27 <luca_barbato> kaz: I agree with mm, we should clarify the scenarios
13:41:49 <kaz> s/ mm / McCool /
13:42:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:42:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:43:00 <luca_barbato> kaz: I'll talk with Echonet people if they can contribute
13:43:03 <EgeKorkan> q?
13:43:05 <dezell> q+ question for Michael
13:43:09 <kaz> ck k
13:43:14 <kaz> s/ck k//
13:43:15 <kaz> ack k
13:43:16 <luca_barbato> ege: I agree we could make call for devices
13:43:18 <kaz> ack m
13:43:35 <kaz> s/mm,/McCool,/
13:43:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:45:28 <luca_barbato> de: What about the Node-Red demo, McCool?
13:45:51 <luca_barbato> mm: I need to check the status of devices
13:46:30 <EgeKorkan> q?
13:46:42 <EgeKorkan> ack q
13:46:43 <Zakim> question, you wanted to discuss Michael
13:46:43 <McCool> q?
13:46:50 <McCool> ack m
13:46:57 <kaz> i|What|kaz: probably we should describe user scenarios first, and then think about devices (=Things) and applications (=Consumers) for those scenarios next. We also should think about authentication for users with possibility of multiple users.|
13:46:59 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:47:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/18-wot-pf-minutes.html kaz
13:47:18 <kaz> q+
13:47:32 <luca_barbato> ege: Should we invite others to this call to get more information?
13:48:24 <McCool> q+
13:48:56 <luca_barbato> kaz: if it is like we did it in Sofia Antipolis in which people bring separate devices or if it is like we did in Beijing in which we explore scenarios
13:49:05 <kaz> ack k
13:49:40 <luca_barbato> ege: I was thinking about getting involved in the planning, to get information from the non-WG participant
13:50:14 <luca_barbato> kaz: We can have other IG/CG organized events
13:50:50 <luca_barbato> ege: I think of having them bring devices, so option Sofia
13:51:18 <kaz> s/Sofia Antipolis/Sophia-Antipolis/
13:52:11 <kaz> s/kaz: if/kaz: we should clarify our main purpose for WoT Week Plugfest. if/
13:52:13 <luca_barbato> mm: We should separate between people attending for the Demos and people that would tinker before the demo
13:53:10 <luca_barbato> mm: on one hand we meet to test and find gaps and issues, the other is about showcasing WoT
13:53:12 <kaz> q?
13:53:19 <kaz> q+
13:54:45 <luca_barbato> mm: we are leading to let non-member bring to the demos
13:55:51 <luca_barbato> kaz: maybe we can first define two lists and then decide
13:57:37 <luca_barbato> ege: In the meant time I'll reach out to people that plan to bring devices
13:59:14 <kaz> s/maybe we can first define two lists and then decide/if non-Member CG participants are also interested in Plugfest in addition to demos, that's fine. However, for the Plugfest itself we should concentrate on the user scenarios (=plugfest scearios), so probably it would be better to have a separate page on possible devices and participants including the non-Member participants./
14:00:26 <kaz> s/non-Member participants./non-Member participants first. Then we should clarify possible user scenarios to be checked during Plugfest based on the available Things and Consumers./
14:00:36 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:00:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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