IRC log of adapt on 2024-09-17

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger

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meeting: Weekly Teleconference 17-Sep-2024

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agenda+ Introductions. Updates.

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agenda+ TPAC planning

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agenda+ Well Known Destinations

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agenda+ Issue 240

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agenda+ Recruitment

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/17-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger

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present+

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regrets: Janina

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present+

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agenda?

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present+

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zakim, next item

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agendum 1 -- Introductions. Updates. -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 1 closed

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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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2. TPAC planning [from Lionel_Wolberger]

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/17-adapt-minutes.html matatk

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agendum 2 -- TPAC planning -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

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https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2024

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matatk: Adapt is meeting Thursday

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present+

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scribe+

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matatk: The Adapt meeting will occur at a time not conducive to India timezone

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... and Lionel will have left TPAC by then

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https://w3c.github.io/adapt/presentations/ac2024/ (we could use the top and tail of this to explain what we're trying to do, and how it may look form the user's perspective)

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... I suggest I show the AC presentation first, as it is short and very illustrative of the problem statement

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Lionel_Wolberger: _1

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... +1

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... and we will have time Monday to preview the presentation

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matatk: Re symbols, we talked previously about showing a demo with the tool, but with appropriate/more representative content in it.

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agendum 3 -- Well Known Destinations -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

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https://github.com/w3c/adapt/blob/add-explainers/explainers/well-known-destinations.md

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matatk: The "how" standards will need slight tweaks to support Adapt's concept of Well Known Destinations

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... looking at Linksets, the linkset document is almost like a sitemap, but has links

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... its advantage, it is a thing that you can fetch once

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... we could place the LInkset at a WKD for the domain, and then we would get the ability to query it directly without having to overtly reference it on every page

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... this could work if there are multiple sites on a FQDN

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Abhinav: A WKD to fetch all the links in the linkset?

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q+

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matatk: To deal with sub-sites, there could be one giant linkset that includes all the sub-site linksets

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... is it an HTTP header that point to it?

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matatk: So there are bandwidth concerns, and options for site hosting.

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zakim, who is here?

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Present: Lionel_Wolberger, Abhinav, matatk

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On IRC I see Annalu, Roy_, matatk, Abhinav, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lionel_Wolberger, gb, Daniel

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present+ Annalu

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zakim, who is here?

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Present: Lionel_Wolberger, Abhinav, matatk, Annalu

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On IRC I see Annalu, Roy_, matatk, Abhinav, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lionel_Wolberger, gb, Daniel

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matatk: There will be expertise to help us with the trade-offs.

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Abhinav: The challenge with well-known is that it's sitie-wide.

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Abhinav: Concern about getting the response for the entire site.

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matatk: Can think of a couple of suggestions - site-wide linkset, or sub-site one - bringing furrther questions re discovery.

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Abhinav: Think we can mention these as optional extensions we're considering (in the explainer).

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matatk: Wanted to check that I understood, the extension we are after is to have * represent wildcard in the 'base' link, to which the others in the set relate. Allows us to do sub-sites.

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Abhinav: That matches my expectations.

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matatk: Is this sufficient to present, when filled in?

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Abhinav: Yes

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zakim, next item

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I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, matatk

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ack Lionel_Wolberger

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zakim, next item

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agendum 4 -- Issue 240 -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

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Explainer link: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/blob/add-explainers/explainers/symbols.md

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Prototype/demo tool (doesn't yet have the right content in it): https://matatk.agrip.org.uk/adaptable-content-authoring-tool/editor/

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Annalu: Symbols can be used to give the reader the key concepts

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... almost like summarization, putting symbols only on the key words

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/17-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger

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zakim, end meeting

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As of this point the attendees have been Lionel_Wolberger, Abhinav, matatk, Annalu

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RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/17-adapt-minutes.html Zakim

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I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye

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