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13:24:22 <kaz> meeting: WoT and NGSI-LD
13:24:30 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura
13:25:11 <kaz> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Group/group-wot-ngsi-ld/2024Sep/0005.html
13:30:59 <kaz> present+ Dave_Raggett, Martin_Bauer, Tomoaki_Mizushima
13:31:41 <kaz> present+ Kunihiko_Toumura
13:32:18 <kaz> present+ Pierre-Antoine_Champin
13:32:26 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool
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13:33:23 <kaz> present+ Ken_Zangelin
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13:34:02 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
13:34:02 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Dave_Raggett, Martin_Bauer, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Kunihiko_Toumura, Pierre-Antoine_Champin, Michael_McCool, Ken_Zangelin
13:34:33 <kaz> present+ Franck_LE_GALL
13:34:49 <McCool> topic: Agenda
13:35:11 <McCool> kaz: logistics, smart cities breakout, liaison scope, introductions
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13:35:25 <McCool> kaz: ok, introductions
13:35:45 <kaz> i/ok/topic: Introduction/
13:35:49 <McCool> dr: dave raggett, organizing AOTI
13:36:05 <kaz> mm: Michael McCool, Intel. Co-Chair of WoT
13:37:05 <McCool> kt: hitachi, interop and vocabs
13:37:34 <McCool> kz: fiware, our ngsi context broker, work on API definition
13:37:59 <kaz> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
13:38:09 <McCool> mb: work for NEC in EU, vice-chair of ISG, semantic interop
13:38:32 <McCool> pac: data identity, RDF-star
13:39:01 <McCool> sk: Siemens, WoT co-chair
13:39:25 <McCool> tm: IRI, co-moderator of WoT use case TF
13:39:38 <McCool> kaz: team contact for WoT/
13:40:08 <kaz> s|WoT/|WoT/Smart Cities|
13:40:09 <McCool> flg: EGM managing director, chair of ETSI
13:40:34 <McCool> topic: prev minutes
13:40:41 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/08/02-ngsi-minutes.html Aug-2
13:41:57 <McCool> kaz: any objections to approval?   none->approved
13:42:15 <McCool> topic: logistics
13:42:17 <McCool> kaz: doodle poll for next call
13:42:30 <kaz> -> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb doodle
13:42:54 <McCool> kaz: looks like Monday or Friday (evening in Japan)
13:43:18 <McCool> kaz: it looks like the second slots on those days are fine
13:44:27 <McCool> mm: would like to propose the second slot on Monday, which is 4pm in Germany and 7am in Pacific
13:45:27 <McCool> kaz: have TPAC in two weeks, so we discussed next meeting week of Oct 14-18, so that would be Monday, Oct 14
13:45:43 <McCool> kaz: but... I just realized... daylight savings will happen
13:46:32 <McCool> mm: should not impact north america or germany, both will have shifted by then
13:46:42 <McCool> ... but it will change by an hour in japan
13:47:00 <kaz> Oct. 14, 4pm CEST
13:47:18 <kaz> NOTE: DST change the end of Oct
13:48:10 <McCool> kaz: I will create a calendar entry and distribute it to you all
13:48:20 <kaz> action: Kaz to create a W3C Calendar for the NGSI liaison meeting
13:48:35 <kaz> topic: Liaison table
13:48:35 <McCool> s/both will have shifted by then/will both have shifted by then?/
13:48:47 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/liaisons/#ETSI Liaison table for ETSI
13:49:34 <McCool> kaz: we had some discussion last time about who to list as contacts on the ETSI side
13:50:01 <kaz> Franck Le Gall and Patrick Guillemin
13:50:07 <McCool> ... will list Franck Le Gall and Patrick Guillemin
13:50:20 <McCool> kz: won't Patrick retire soon?
13:50:32 <McCool> flg: next year, so no problem
13:50:59 <kaz> topic: W3C account / ML setting
13:51:00 <McCool> topic: W3C Account
13:51:09 <McCool> kaz: this is related to mailing list settings
13:51:37 <McCool> ... can set up mailing list on W3C - but need (free) W3C accounts
13:51:47 <McCool> ... three people are missing, however
13:52:05 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/account/ get account
13:52:37 <McCool> kaz: just need name, login, and password, and email
13:52:58 <McCool> ... after creation, will get an email to confirm
13:53:53 <McCool> mm: then people can access calendar entry, minutes, email archive, etc.
13:53:56 <kaz> topic: TPAC
13:54:15 <McCool> kaz: large meeting technical plenary in two weeks
13:54:16 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/schedule.html TPAC 2024
13:54:45 <McCool> ... on Wednesday there will be breakouts, one is web-based digital twins for smart cities
13:54:56 <McCool> ... would be good to have a fiware representative
13:55:24 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2024-breakouts/issues/62 Smart Cities breakout
13:56:50 <McCool> mm: there are other W3C and NGSI-LD, such as Spatial Data on the Web; send me an email if you are interested
13:57:14 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/registration.html TPAC 2024 registration page
13:57:54 <McCool> mm: schedule will not be finalized for breakouts until Sept 19
13:58:21 <McCool> kaz: however, I am asking for it to be scheduled 16:00-16:45 Pacific time
13:59:10 <McCool> kaz: other SDOs invited, including ITU, ISO, etc.
13:59:29 <kaz> -> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20240925T230000&p1=137&p2=43&p3=tz_at&p4=1440&p5=136&p6=195&p7=101&p8=33&p9=236&p10=248 date/time
14:01:47 <McCool> mm: note that once this is launched it will be easier/cheaper to attend the regular IG sessions
14:02:39 <McCool> kaz: note that I can invite you and get the fee waived so please don't worry about that
14:03:04 <McCool> topic: Liaison Scope
14:03:25 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/liaisons/ngsi-ld.md Liaison page
14:03:37 <McCool> mm: assume this includes our goals; I think it would be good to have a rough agenda for the rest of the year
14:03:39 <McCool> kaz: yes
14:04:56 <McCool> mm: noticed we have a deliverable deadline by end of 2024; depending on what we do, that may be ambitious
14:06:03 <McCool> mm: there were some previous presentation from ISG CIM on how WoT could address some gaps; we should go back to that
14:06:15 <McCool> kaz: next meeting we can dive into those resources again
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14:06:52 <kaz> present+ Zane_Durkin
14:07:02 <kaz> present+ Jan_Romann
14:07:09 <kaz> present+ Michael_Koster
14:07:43 <McCool> mm: it would be helpful to have links to some resources here so we can do some "homework"
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14:10:08 <McCool> kaz: we can add that to the MD file for the liaison
14:10:14 <McCool> ... rather than a wiki
14:10:18 <McCool> mm: works for me
14:10:57 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/liaisons/ngsi-ld.md NGSI liaison scope page
14:11:29 <kaz> topic: Intro - revisited
14:12:52 <McCool> mk: Michael Koster, WoT Co-chair, computer architecture and standards, KTCAV (automation systems for buildings, ontologist)
14:13:17 <McCool> ... also chair one Data Model, SDF
14:13:57 <McCool> ... also involved with ASHRAE building ontology
14:14:22 <McCool> jr: invited expert in WoT, university researcher, also work with SDF
14:14:47 <McCool> zd: applications security engineer
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14:16:14 <kaz> topic: AOB
14:16:41 <kaz> kaz: added the "Resources" section for any kind of resources
14:16:53 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/main/proposals/liaisons/ngsi-ld.md resouces
14:17:06 <McCool> mm: suggest we discuss by email the agenda for the next meeting, need to figure out deliverables, etc.
14:17:21 <McCool> kaz: I will also send an email about minutes and ask you to review
14:18:14 <kaz> [adjourned]
14:18:21 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:18:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:18:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/13-ngsi-minutes.html kaz
14:19:13 <kaz> chair: Kaz
14:19:44 <kaz> i/Intel/scribenick: kaz/
14:19:55 <kaz> i/logistics, sma/scribenick: McCool/
14:20:39 <kaz> s|topic: W3C account / ML setting||
14:21:06 <kaz> i/added the "/scribeick: kaz/
14:21:19 <kaz> i/suggest we di/scribenick: McCool/
14:21:23 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:21:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/13-ngsi-minutes.html kaz
14:22:11 <kaz> s/scribeick:/scribenick:/
14:22:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:22:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/13-ngsi-minutes.html kaz
14:22:32 <kaz> i/hitachi/scribenick: McCool/
14:22:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:22:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/13-ngsi-minutes.html kaz