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13:54:48 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
13:55:03 <janina> Meeting: WAI-Adapt Teleconference
13:55:09 <janina> Date: 10 Sep 2024
13:55:16 <janina> Chair: Lionel_Wolberger
13:55:21 <janina> agenda+ Introduction, logistics. Any Updates?
13:55:21 <janina> agenda+ TPAC Preps
13:55:21 <janina> agenda+ Well Known Destinations
13:55:21 <janina> agenda+ Symbols (Issue 240)
13:55:21 <janina> agenda+ Recruitment
13:58:23 <janina>  present+
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14:08:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
14:09:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
14:09:17 <matatk> present+
14:09:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
14:09:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:09:20 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Introduction, logistics. Any Updates? -- taken up [from janina]
14:09:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Discussed some TPAC items
14:09:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Let's meet next week, correct?
14:09:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Yes, all agree.
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14:10:47 <Russell> present+
14:12:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: 24-Sept will be TPAC, no Adapt Meeting
14:13:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... 1 October follows TPAC, and APA and Adapt TF will take the day off. No meeting.
14:13:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:13:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/10-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:14:23 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2024
14:14:32 <janina> Above is the APA TPAC Wiki
14:17:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up item 4
14:17:39 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Symbols (Issue 240) -- taken up [from janina]
14:22:13 <janina> q+ to suggest we want to say authoring for everyone, not just for AAC experts
14:26:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Discussed the options we have regarding the Explainers
14:29:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... (1) Adapt symbol attribute (2) AAC registry
14:29:29 <matatk> q+ what to show WHATWG / articulating the problem and question
14:30:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... for the Adapt symbol attribute, we will see there Bliss ID and Unicode Integer values
14:31:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Turning to WHAT-WG, we want their buy-in on the decimal integer values
14:31:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: Its Bliss concept ID (a decimal integer) vs. a Unicode representation (might be a hex representation?)
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14:32:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We can focus on authoring, as this motivates WHAT-WG. Authoring is not our main focus, implementation is
14:34:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we want WHAT-WG to picture the authoring scenario, we will stress that this is a minimal burden as we expect only one symbol per line
14:34:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we do foresee entire sentences and paragraphs to be marked up with symbols
14:34:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: A spice in the stew and not the main course
14:36:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: A good authoring demo is the prototype we currently have
14:36:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... but the prototype tool marks up the entire sentence
14:36:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we would like to markup only certain words, to aid in visual scanning and navigation
14:37:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> +1
14:37:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> Russell: I agree it's a good idea
14:40:07 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... when marking up long texts with many symbols, you would need an expert
14:40:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: 'Ordinary mortals' who can add one symbol per line
14:41:32 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: So we will not change the prototype code (no time), we just need a prepared example that suits this 'one symbol per line' use case
14:42:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, take up item 3
14:42:17 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Well Known Destinations -- taken up [from janina]
14:43:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Same focus, how to approach WHAT-WG properly
14:46:44 <matatk> Comments welcome: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/261
14:46:44 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/261 -> Pull Request 261 Add explainers for proposed new specs (by matatk)
14:52:33 <matatk> matatk: Re-structured the Explainer.
14:52:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/tree/add-explainers/explainers
14:52:54 <matatk> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/blob/add-explainers/explainers/well-known-destinations.md
14:53:09 <matatk> Abhinav: I will have a look over the next week
14:53:21 <matatk> Abhinav: Would we be OK with a hybrid approach?
14:53:23 <matatk> scribe+
14:53:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/10-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:53:50 <matatk> matatk: I highlighted what I think are our main technical requirements, and how each proposed approach may meet them.
14:54:19 <matatk> ... Essentially any approach that meets them would be fine with us I think, though I suspect it wouldn't contain both Well-known URIs and Linksets.
14:56:31 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger: actions?
14:56:52 <matatk> matatk: Will put agendas on the calendar.
14:56:59 <matatk> zakim, end meeting
14:56:59 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, Russell, Abhinav
14:57:01 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:57:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/10-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
14:57:08 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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15:33:29 <janina> zakim, bye
15:33:33 <janina> rrsagent, bye
15:33:33 <RRSAgent> I see no action items