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14:26:57 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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15:06:49 <tburtin> Lisa wants to take a look at the current timeline. Displays Timeline for v3 of Content Usable.
15:07:58 <lisa> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/issue-papers-v2/issue-papers/index.html
15:08:38 <Frankie> Lisa: Mockup editors version went to user testing in mid-August.
15:09:05 <Frankie> Lisa: Two topics aren't in editors draft yet: Supported Decision-Making and Triggers.
15:09:16 <tburtin> Lisa In August we had a mock up to went to users of the Editors Draft. Two of the modules are not here, Supported Decision Making  and Making triggers
15:09:45 <tburtin> Lisa Older issue papers are useful but there is a warning that they are older.
15:10:35 <tburtin> Lisa In September we need to get feedback on the structure and 4 issues papers
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15:11:34 <tburtin> Lisa complemented Rain's group for the user feedback. Notes changes from the mental health review, placeholders for internationalization and for testing.
15:12:50 <tburtin> Rain says we are trying to complete the remaining 5 user testing interviews by the 11th Sept, but may have overflow till Friday
15:13:24 <tburtin> Rain wishes to connect with folks for formatting and such at TPAC
15:15:20 <tburtin> Rain analysis will be starting the 16th Sept and further discussions at TPAC. Realistically October will be the time for putting together templates
15:16:47 <tburtin> Lisa we will want to put together feedback for Structure analysis, potentially need 3 months to organize and get everything in including place holders for Internationalization. So possibly need 3 months? Maybe December?
15:17:39 <tburtin> Lisa this will give time to get mental health into the current Github version.
15:18:06 <tburtin> Lisa this should be aimed to happen by the end of October
15:19:38 <tburtin> Rain has the Thursday slot for Structure Review for Content Usable 11EST. Mental health has the early time 8am EST for Thursday.
15:21:46 <tburtin> Lisa updated the Phase 2 section of the Coga Action items
15:24:52 <tburtin> Open discussion on when issue papers editors drafts may be possible to get tidy. November is the target.
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15:25:24 <lisa> Q?
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15:26:30 <tburtin> Lisa Subgroups and general research
15:27:13 <tburtin> Lisa requests Frankie add to Supported decision making when possible
15:28:13 <tburtin> Julie Editors call at 9am on Thursday? Lisa correct.
15:29:07 <lisa> Q?
15:29:55 <tburtin> Lisa Taking opinions on the time of the Editor call. No responses and no changes. Lisa wants to make sure it is at a good time for everyone.
15:33:05 <tburtin> Julierawe WCAG 3 There are a lot of discussions about assertions. Assertions are specific.  Discussing Assertions apply to a lot of outcomes.  Style Guide - AG looked at what assertions are needed for each outcome. Subgroup wants a style guide that includes guidance on how to handle this. Do they need to keep repeating that assertion or train
15:33:05 <tburtin> people on how to find thing and streamline the information.
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15:35:28 <tburtin> Julierawe noted that the AG meeting will have the subgroups checking in tomorrow. Also talks about "interface verbosity" but instead the internationalization subgroup wants to come up with more plain language.
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15:37:53 <Rain> q+
15:38:20 <tburtin> Lisa wants to have a call about Findability and how we have addressed it. kirkwood said if we are going to make significant changes that we should wait. Lisa is adding to 30th Sept agenda
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15:40:45 <tburtin> Rain With the interview process we are discovering things that we need to add to Findability, Rain said she can talk about the information we have found out on the 20th Sept. May result in a few additional drafts to finability which will need 3 or 4 people.
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15:41:51 <tburtin> Lisa Is there anything else needed for next week's agenda. Lisa added topics for us to brain storm, suggestions that have been previously made. 16th Sept
15:41:53 <lisa> close item 5
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15:43:42 <tburtin> Lisa the deadline is coming up in a few days for TPAC. What do we want as a breakout session? Lisa to find the email.
15:44:39 <tburtin> Rain would like to have a breakout to dig into the structure suggestions.
15:45:02 <kirkwood> JK interested in breakout
15:46:39 <kirkwood> link to supported decision making?
15:46:52 <kirkwood> link to others?
15:46:54 <tburtin> Lisa Do we want to do Supported Decision making. Lisa thinks it may be too early. Safety is possible but requires editing. We also have several issue papers coming soon
15:47:09 <Frankie> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g9N-_3l-d6t0ppZcIIZ98k00x7ZE7h3ayq0OCX9Ycu4/edit#heading=h.rhs6n8lpznbz
15:47:19 <lisa> supported desion https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g9N-_3l-d6t0ppZcIIZ98k00x7ZE7h3ayq0OCX9Ycu4/edit#heading=h.b6rogv848krh
15:47:34 <lisa> issue paper editors dafts https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/issue-papers-v2/issue-papers/index.html
15:48:07 <kirkwood> what is the health of each?
15:49:08 <kirkwood> triggers and supported needs most work then it seems
15:49:40 <kirkwood> +1
15:49:45 <tburtin> Lisa maybe one breakout session saying here are the documents that are coming and dive into safety
15:49:58 <kirkwood> yes
15:50:06 <kirkwood> sure
15:50:20 <tburtin> Lisa any volunteers on co-presenting with Lisa on Safety.
15:50:23 <tburtin> I can
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15:51:40 <kirkwood> best name ever!
15:52:10 <tburtin> Rain It would be wonderful to do a presentation at CSUN ATIA etc for Learning about Making content usable.
15:52:48 <lisa> next item
15:53:02 <tburtin> Rain to look at coordinating a potential talk for a later conference
15:53:21 <kirkwood> link?
15:53:37 <Frankie> I volunteer to help Rain at CSUN or ATIA
15:53:47 <kirkwood> google doc link?
15:54:05 <tburtin> DavidSwallow has sent out a document for review
15:54:32 <tburtin> I would like to be involved too Rain in some capacity at CSUN or ATIA.
15:54:46 <DavidSwallow> CTAUR Feedback Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dFjMfobPdWUz0a-wm6NQKN_nRXVjSLvJlHcgFF0SnHc/edit
15:55:20 <tburtin> Lisa, looks like we may need more people to review it. DavidSwallow says we have till 30th Sept to review it.
15:55:36 <DavidSwallow> Latest version of Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements (CTAUR). https://www.w3.org/TR/ctaur/
15:56:04 <tburtin> Lisa Giving time to DavidSwallow on 16th Sept for talking through the document and collect comments during the meeting.
15:58:04 <tburtin> Kirkwood John is looking at the crossfuntional issues with people with both visual disabilities and cognitive disabilities. John wants to make sure which disabilities we are covering.
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