11:58:55 RRSAgent has joined #wot 11:59:00 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/09/04-wot-irc 11:59:01 meeting: WoT-WG/IG 11:59:22 McCool2 has joined #wot 11:59:32 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Luca_Barbato 11:59:51 McCool has joined #wot 12:00:17 mjk has joined #wot 12:03:53 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#4_September_2024 12:05:21 dape has joined #wot 12:05:58 dezell has joined #wot 12:06:10 present+ David_Ezell 12:06:25 present+ Daniel_Peintner 12:06:27 Tomo has joined #wot 12:06:32 present+ Tomoaki_Mizushima 12:06:39 present+ Mahda_Noura 12:08:04 present+ Kunihiko_Toumura 12:08:33 mahda has joined #wot 12:08:37 scribe: dape 12:08:37 regrets+ Ege 12:08:52 presents+ Mahda_Noura 12:08:59 regrets+ Sebastian 12:09:06 rrsagent, make log public 12:09:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:09:15 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:09:22 TOPIC: Guests, New Members, and Invited Experts 12:09:24 MMC: No quest today 12:09:33 .... Sheriff is rather new 12:09:39 ... we need to on-board hime 12:09:44 chair: McCool 12:09:55 ... another person likely to join 12:10:17 TOPIC: Minutes 12:10:25 q+ 12:10:30 -> August-07 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/08/07-wot-minutes.html 12:10:46 MMC: reviewed them in chairs call, look good 12:10:59 ... any objections ? 12:11:14 ... none -> minutes approved 12:11:47 MN: support from my side with new persons ... 12:11:53 .. I can help 12:12:05 MMC: Thanks, let's discuss it 12:12:20 TOPIC: Quick Items 12:12:23 i/support/subtopic: TFs/ 12:12:27 MMC: None 12:12:34 TOPIC: Meetups 12:12:52 subtopic: WoT CG 12:13:01 MMC: WoT CG 12:13:15 TM: No new plan for WoT JP CG 12:13:21 i|WoT CG|-> https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/b74f11e7-93d6-4b15-b998-6e55054a6f61/ Sep-19 meeting o Lasers| 12:13:30 ... we currently discuss the next topics 12:13:42 s/MMC: WoT CG/subtopic: WoT JP CG/ 12:13:47 TOPIC: Liaisons 12:13:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:13:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:14:10 MMC: supposed to have OPC Foundation meeting in September 12:14:13 s/presents+ Mahda_Noura// 12:14:26 ... September 10 12:14:27 i/suppo/subtopic: OPC/ 12:14:41 ... for OPCF members 12:14:58 ... please talk to Sebastian w.r.t. logistics 12:15:22 subtopic: ETSI ISG CIM 12:15:23 MMC: Next, ETSI ISG CIM 12:15:32 .... got liaison 12:15:39 ... https://www.w3.org/liaisons/#simple 12:15:42 -> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb Doodle for the liaison calls 12:15:50 ... Kaz is contact person 12:16:07 s|-> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb Doodle for the liaison calls|| 12:16:11 -> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/bo7RXZzb Doodle for the liaison calls 12:16:12 ... 4 slots available in Doodle poll 12:16:16 q+ 12:16:20 ack m 12:16:25 ... no responses from ETSI yet 12:17:15 dape has joined #wot 12:17:24 ... it will be Monday or Friday 12:17:48 Kaz: Send reminder 12:18:08 ... if we cannot decide slot, we might want to have the meeting on Friday 12:18:30 MMC: Half hour meetings are problematic 12:18:38 ... but be careful .. it could be Monday 12:18:57 q? 12:19:07 q- 12:19:07 ack kaz 12:19:17 s/Send/will send/ 12:19:30 s/Friday/Friday as we've been doing/ 12:19:58 MMC: plan is to align NGSI-LD and WoT 12:20:04 .... both JSON-LD based 12:20:20 TOPIC: Schedule 12:20:44 MMC: On Oct 23, Mizushima-San is not available ... maybe cancelling use-case call 12:20:50 ... we will see 12:21:06 q? 12:21:12 q+ 12:21:31 Kaz: Discussion with M. Koster w.r.t. to TD 12:21:40 ... plan to cancel Thursday TD call 12:22:14 ... tomorrow 12:22:27 and September 12 12:22:33 i|Mizushima|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Cancellations_and_Schedule_Updates Cancellations| 12:22:35 ... we will see about September 19 12:22:44 s/and September 12/... and September 12 12:22:54 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:22:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:23:25 MMC: At TPAC we might want to look at Publication Milestones calculator 12:23:33 ... should try to stick to schedule 12:23:41 TOPIC: F2F Planning 12:23:56 subtopic: TPAC 12:24:00 MMC: Standard deadline has passed 12:24:08 ... was 1 September 2024 12:24:22 ... remote available until Sept 27 12:25:08 i|Stan|-> https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/registration.html TPAC registration page| 12:25:12 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:25:13 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:25:51 SUBTOPIC: TPAC Wiki 12:25:54 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_F2F_2024_planning TPAC 2024 WoT wiki 12:26:05 MMC: 5 people so far on site 12:26:44 ... would be good to know who joins remotely 12:26:49 q+ 12:26:56 ... I will add a new column to track that 12:27:13 q- 12:29:01 SUBTOPIC: Breakouts 12:29:07 MMC: 6 timeslots 12:29:46 ... please make sure that if you run a breakout add the name to this list 12:30:03 ... and list conflicts 12:30:25 Kaz: This year we might want to use tracking system 12:31:01 s/tracking/track/ 12:31:30 MMC: Koster, proposal from TD side? 12:31:37 MK: We have 2 topics 12:32:00 MMC: I have the concern when we wait too long 12:32:16 MN: One topic is schemata discussion 12:32:29 -> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2024-breakouts/issues/created_by/egekorkan breakouts proposed by Ege 12:32:29 ... Ege and I prepare the topic. Is bout LinkML 12:32:34 q+ 12:32:38 ... Ege is back in 2 weeks 12:32:59 s|-> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2024-breakouts/issues/created_by/egekorkan breakouts proposed by Ege|| 12:33:01 -> https://github.com/w3c/tpac2024-breakouts/issues/created_by/egekorkan breakouts proposed by Ege 12:33:05 ack k 12:33:07 MK: Second breakout is about registry 12:33:33 MMC: You should add the breakouts as issue 12:33:36 MN: I see 12:33:36 s/by Ege/by Ege (LinkML and Registry)/ 12:34:21 Kaz: I can check the conflicts myself 12:34:46 s/myself/myself. also will surely mention all the conflicts to be avoided./ 12:35:08 ... Dom will do the schedule on 15th of September 12:35:30 SUBTOPIC: Group meeting schedule 12:35:38 ... > https://www.w3.org/2024/05/tpac2024-schedule-20240523.html 12:36:02 -> https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/schedule.html TPAC schedule page 12:36:23 Kaz: Table view requires a very small font 12:36:37 ... at the bottom 12:36:56 ... at least there was one 12:37:05 MMC: It is hard to read 12:37:13 ... it lists group calls... 12:37:20 ... we do have joined calls 12:37:37 s/joined/joint 12:38:42 MMC: On Thursday we have 2 meetings, one of which is a joint meeting 12:39:04 ... we need to get organized 12:39:58 Kaz: we have 2 joint meetings 12:40:16 ... official meetings are on Thursday and Friday 12:40:31 We need to work on our agenda 12:40:45 s/We need/MMC: We need/ 12:40:57 MMC: 4 hours total 12:42:34 ... https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Wiki_for_F2F_2024_planning 12:42:38 (Kaz has just added the date/time for the WoT F2F part to the wiki) 12:42:55 ... we are at 4 hours 12:43:24 MMC: we have 30 minutes for slack 12:43:42 ... we can use that slot for other things 12:44:05 ... I also don't think I need 30 minutes for Discovery 12:44:19 ... on the other hand 30 mins for TD is to little 12:44:30 MK: We will talk about this in TD call 12:44:47 ... and add some items on the Wiki 12:46:56 s/at least there was one/at least there was one for breakouts.../ 12:47:14 q+ 12:47:17 MMC: please add a preference for certain days also 12:47:38 ack k 12:47:40 Kaz: Need to think about priority, if agenda gets full 12:47:58 MMC: Feel free to propose new topics 12:48:03 s/if agenda gets full/given the agenda is full/ 12:48:19 .. we can still try to shift stuff around.. or skip parts like "Policies" 12:48:25 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:48:26 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:49:42 TOPICS: Policies 12:49:54 MMC: we don't have enough time today 12:50:05 ... shall we schedule a dedicated call? 12:50:11 ... https://github.com/w3c/wot/labels/Policy 12:50:20 MK: I would like to see it done 12:50:37 TOPIC: TF Leads 12:50:54 MMC: at the moment we have task forces missing moderators 12:51:19 ... Sheriff is willing to do security stuff 12:51:50 ... discovery is mostly done ... may need updated once the TD2 is ready 12:52:04 ... Architecture should not be a big deal 12:52:19 ... testing needs to be restarted once TD work is done 12:52:50 ... in use-case meeting we decided to go with Ege's "simpler" use-case template 12:52:52 q+ 12:53:27 s/Sheriff/Charith/ 12:53:55 ... Luca needs to work on use-cases for profiles 12:54:41 MMC: We should clear backlog... like discovery use-cases/ requirements 12:55:03 ... let's see whether we need additional moderators 12:55:13 ack dape 12:55:22 q? 12:55:46 (McCool will act as a (temporary) second TF moderator for the Use Cases TF to focus on requirements.) 12:56:10 DP: Minor: new template used from Jan and myself with some feedback/improvement 12:56:11 s|cases/ re|cases/re| 12:56:15 MMC: Please make PR 12:56:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:56:20 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:56:54 ... for the suggested improvements 12:57:15 s/used from/tried by/ 12:57:44 TOPIC: Other Topics 12:57:57 MMC: Profile call this week ? 12:58:08 LB: Next week, not this week 12:58:55 MMC: Should think about Plugfest as well 12:59:02 q+ 12:59:11 [adjourned] 12:59:34 Kaz: Plugfest call after this? 12:59:39 q- 12:59:52 s/after this?/after this call? 13:00:07 s/[adjourned]// 13:00:16 MMC: Suggest to skip today's call 13:00:36 s/call/Plugfest call/ 13:00:36 s/skip today's call/skip today's PF call 13:00:52 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:00:54 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:55:12 TallTed has joined #wot 14:02:11 [adjourned] 14:02:12 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:02:14 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/09/04-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:03:12 bigbluehat has joined #wot 14:13:20 dape has joined #wot 15:06:44 Zakim has left #wot 15:58:07 gkellogg has joined #wot