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13:46:39 <agendabot> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/bc275b6e-6c38-4ed5-b324-6606a0c6cca7/20240829T150000/
13:46:39 <agendabot> clear agenda
13:46:39 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda Review
13:46:39 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
13:46:41 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
13:46:43 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
13:46:43 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:46:45 <agendabot> agenda+ Pending Issue Review
13:46:48 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
13:46:51 <addison> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:46:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/29-i18n-minutes.html addison
13:58:30 <addison> present+ Addison
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14:01:07 <addison> present+ Fuqiao, Bert
14:01:46 <Bert> scribe+
14:02:53 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:02:53 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:02:55 <addison> agenda?
14:03:15 <addison> present+ JcK
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14:04:32 <addison> agenda+ date/time PR
14:05:04 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:05:04 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Action Items -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:05:13 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues
14:05:21 <addison> #117
14:05:22 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/117 -> Action 117  review css 4154 :lang() selector canonicalization (on aphillips) due 2024-08-29
14:05:33 <addison> #115
14:05:33 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/115 -> Action 115  review i18n-activity#1783 (on r12a) due 2024-08-22
14:05:57 <addison> i18n-activity#1783
14:05:58 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1783 -> Issue 1783 CSS `text-spacing` property and its longhands (by w3cbot) [close?] [tracker] [s:css-text] [needs-attention] [tag-tracker] [other:tag]
14:06:29 <Bert> r12a: Trying to remember what it is about.
14:06:49 <Bert> ... Not done yet.
14:06:54 <addison> #114
14:06:54 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/114 -> Action 114  read through i18n-activity#1659 and report on whether we're satisfied (on r12a) due 2024-08-22
14:07:28 <Bert> r12a: Not yet.
14:07:30 <addison> #113
14:07:31 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/113 -> Action 113  publish counter styles with zhuyin counter style included (on r12a) due 2024-08-22
14:07:40 <Bert> r12a: Done
14:07:44 <addison> close #113
14:07:46 <gb> Closed -> issue #113 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/113
14:07:49 <addison> #90
14:07:50 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/90 -> Action 90  steal some of henri's text from scroll-to-text-fragment for string-search (on aphillips) due 2024-04-18
14:08:04 <Bert> addison: Not finished.
14:08:07 <addison> #89
14:08:07 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/89 -> Action 89  update i18n specs to support dark mode (on xfq) due 2024-04-18
14:08:21 <Bert> xfq: I discussed with CSS folks.
14:08:45 <Bert> ... The respec people think it is blocked on CSS, and vice-versa.
14:09:01 <Bert> ... It may just be more verbose than they like.
14:09:24 <Bert> ... CSS people don't think it should be blocked on CSS
14:09:36 <Bert> ... I'll talk again with ReSpec.
14:10:11 <Bert> addison: I'll remove the blocked label
14:10:15 <addison> #33
14:10:16 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/33 -> Action 33 Close issues marked `close?` or bring to WG for further review (on aphillips)
14:10:43 <Bert> addison: We triaged recently, I'll continue.
14:10:52 <addison> #8
14:10:52 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/8 -> Action 8 Follow up on the status of Canvas and formatted text (on aphillips) due 18 Jul 2023
14:10:58 <Bert> addison: Not yet
14:11:03 <addison> #7
14:11:04 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/7 -> Action 7 Remind shepherds to tend to their awaiting comment resolutions (Evergreen) (on aphillips, xfq, himorin, r12a, bert-github) due 18 Jul 2023
14:11:22 <addison> #4
14:11:22 <Bert> No requests to close things filed this week.
14:11:22 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-actions/issues/4 -> Action 4 Work with respec and bikeshed to provide the character markup template as easy-to-use markup (on aphillips, r12a) due 27 Jul 2023
14:11:37 <Bert> addison: I owe some feedback. Will take a look.
14:11:44 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:11:44 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Info Share -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:11:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/29-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:12:18 <Bert> xfq: I registered for UNicode tech workshop
14:12:54 <Bert> addison: It's open until end of this month.
14:13:03 <Bert> r12a: I will not be at TPAC.
14:13:12 <Bert> addison: Join by video?
14:14:04 <Bert> r12a: I'll look at the agenda.
14:14:07 <addison> agenda?
14:14:27 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:14:27 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- RADAR Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:14:34 <addison> https://github.com/orgs/w3c/projects/91/views/1
14:14:57 <Bert> addison: No new requests.
14:15:12 <Bert> r12a: I thought I saw a new request this morning?
14:15:22 <Bert> addison: Didn't see any, let me look...
14:15:33 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues
14:15:59 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/237#issuecomment-2317123806
14:16:00 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/237 -> Issue 237 Guidance on Applying WCAG 2 to Non-Web Information and Communications Technologies (WCAG2ICT) 2024-07-02 > 2024-08-06 (by daniel-montalvo) [REVIEW REQUESTED] [WD]
14:16:01 <Bert> i/No new requests/Bert: ACT review not yet done.
14:16:53 <Bert> People looking at why that message is not on incoming requests...
14:17:17 <Bert> xfq: Because we already reviewed it. It is in the "awaiting" column
14:18:14 <Bert> addison: Started looking at WebXR review. Maybe next week.
14:18:18 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 5
14:18:18 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Pending Issue Review -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:18:45 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
14:18:45 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- date/time PR -- taken up [from addison]
14:18:52 <xfq> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/327
14:18:53 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/pull/327 -> Pull Request 327 Add info about HTML and JS new features (by xfq)
14:20:04 <Bert> addison: I didn't finish my review, so didn't publish yet.
14:21:49 <Bert> addison: Touched on long-staning tension in HTML: should native controls follow the locale of the browser or the locale of the page?
14:23:03 <Bert> ... User may be looking at a French page in a browser in a US-English locale, which resutls in confusing ordering, e.g.
14:23:21 <Bert> xfq: Do we have issues already open on this?
14:23:27 <Bert> addison: Yes, we do.
14:23:34 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3As%3Ahtml+date
14:24:06 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3As%3Ahtml+time
14:24:49 <Bert> xfq: That's about plain text, not about a control.
14:25:30 <Bert> addison: Related. People may put JavaScript in their pages that give differently localized content.
14:26:32 <Bert> ... Ths issus is touching on fairly diverse, complicated things. We may want to narrow the scope.
14:26:47 <Bert> ... I see you changed the description.
14:27:36 <Bert> xfq: An alternative is to keep the scope and write a new article about how users enter a dat. And link the two articles together.
14:28:25 <addison> https://w3c.github.io/timezone/
14:28:42 <Bert> addison: If you use <input type=> with various time formats, you'll get ISO8601. If you make a new control you should do so that you get the same.
14:29:03 <Bert> ... ^^ shows various serializations you can use.
14:29:28 <Bert> xfq: OK
14:29:41 <Bert> ... Do you want to add more comments?
14:29:55 <Bert> addison: I'll push. I may also add more comments.
14:30:02 <Bert> ... Do other people want to review?
14:30:55 <Bert> ... I'd like to replace date and time with something like that editors' draft above. So comments on it are welcome.
14:31:47 <Bert> xfq: We can add more information when the JavaScript API is ready.
14:32:16 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 6
14:32:16 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- AOB? -- taken up [from agendabot]
14:33:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/29-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:33:46 <xfq> present+ r12a
14:33:55 <xfq> rrsagent, make minutes
14:33:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/29-i18n-minutes.html xfq
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