14:27:27 RRSAgent has joined #voiceinteraction 14:27:31 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-voiceinteraction-irc 14:27:40 rrsagent, make logs public 14:27:53 meeting: Voice Interaction 14:28:05 chair: debbie 14:28:11 scribe: ddahl 14:28:46 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-voiceinteraction/2024Aug/0005.html 14:32:36 dirk: need to talk about different types of digital assistants and not everything applies to all of them 14:33:01 gerard: personal assitant in the cloud is problematic 14:34:26 debbie: we should actually say why personal assistants in the cloud are problematic 14:37:14 debbie: there is the personal assistant that knows about you and doesn't represent a company 14:38:21 dirk: we could point out that it would be good if it were not in the cloud 14:39:04 debbie: enterprise assistant represents, e.g. your bank, your school, neighborhood association 14:39:34 dirk: data is shared between you and the entity in a trust relationship 14:41:16 ...what about something like Siri or Google? Data is shared but there's no trust relationship, generic cloud-based assistant 14:42:35 debbie: public assistant that you use, but don't share data, like a smart city assistant 14:44:40 debbie: embedded personal assistant, like Mycroft 14:45:10 dirk: it could share data with your bank, so there's a transition 14:45:27 debbie: not completely clear-cut 14:45:45 dirk: state these three types 14:46:02 debbie: there could be some in-between cases 14:46:31 debbie: what about IoT devices 14:47:07 dirk: they would be like public assistants? 14:47:50 .... just authentication 14:48:21 debbie: it just has to know that you're authorized to turn on the lights 14:48:45 dirk: they might also start collecting patterns about how you use them? 14:49:40 debbie: data could be gathered by the assistant or explicitly shared data 14:51:37 ....there's data that the assistant knows about you but you don't, for example, your bank balance or your grades 14:51:51 ...or medical 14:53:25 dirk: there must be a taxonomy of private data types 14:53:48 rrsagent, format logs 14:53:48 I'm logging. I don't understand 'format logs', ddahl. Try /msg RRSAgent help 14:53:55 rrsagent, format minutes 14:53:56 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-voiceinteraction-minutes.html ddahl 14:54:44 debbie: we should look up different types of assistants 14:56:50 ....we should wait to modify documents until we get more information about assistant types 14:57:08 dirk: we should send this question to the mailing list 14:57:22 action:dirk to send question to the mailing list 14:57:57 rrsagent, format minutes 14:57:59 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-voiceinteraction-minutes.html ddahl 14:58:41 dirk: made changes to one drawing 14:59:09 ... tried to resketch one image 15:03:38 debbie: in the diagram we have LLMs, that includes both foundation models and adapted models 15:09:51 debbie: we should send some kind of announcement about the implementation at some point 15:10:42 dirk: it can be used as a basis, but needs some tweaking 15:11:12 (looking at GitHub issues) 15:13:33 dirk: after 54, 55, and 56 we can go for 0.1 15:13:55 dirk: how to publish? source code, doxygen 15:14:06 ...should we share binaries? 15:14:32 debbie: yes, that's pretty common 15:15:20 dirk: doxygen is like javadoc but not language-specific 15:15:36 ....usually used for C++ code 15:16:43 debbie: something higher level than doxygen? 15:16:59 dirk: do we need interfaces document? 15:18:30 debbie: generate and see what's missing 15:19:12 dirk: the interfaces document should be updated to be in line with the current implementation 15:20:33 action: dirk to update issues with issues from today's discussion 15:22:10 action: debbie to check on issue 48 (license) 15:22:43 rrsagent, format minutes 15:22:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-voiceinteraction-minutes.html ddahl 15:27:37 present: debbie, dirk, gerard 15:27:43 rrsagent, format minutes 15:27:45 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-voiceinteraction-minutes.html ddahl 15:28:33 s/assitant/assistant 15:30:41 rrsagent, format minutes 15:30:42 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-voiceinteraction-minutes.html ddahl