14:52:52 RRSAgent has joined #maturity 14:52:57 logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-maturity-irc 14:52:58 RRSAgent, make logs Public 14:52:59 please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio 14:53:26 meeting: Maturity Model Task Force 14:53:43 chair: David Fazio 14:55:42 Agenda+ New Business 14:55:43 Agenda+ Github Issue GitHub Issue #155 Section 3.4: maturity also depends on how effective the ICT development processes are in producing accessible ICT. - Update 14:55:43 Agenda+ GitHub Issue #129 Conflict in position Training Knowledge and Skills Vs. DLC 14:55:43 Agenda+ GitHub Issue #52 Section 2 (and elsewhere, if necessary): broaden the range of standards relevant to the maturity model. 14:55:43 /issues/52 -> #52 14:55:43 /issues/129 -> #129 14:55:43 /issues/155 -> #155 14:55:44 Agenda+ GitHub Issue #45 Would it be better to avoid the overlap between section 3.3 and sections 3.1 and 3.2? 14:55:44 /issues/45 -> #45 14:59:27 Dr_Keith has joined #maturity 15:03:01 present+ 15:03:05 stacey has joined #maturity 15:03:11 present+ 15:03:27 AngelaBarker has joined #maturity 15:03:34 Mark_Miller has joined #Maturity 15:03:52 FYI I'm having issues connecting to the call. Also I need to drop at the half hour mark. Happy to be back with all of you! 15:03:54 SusiPallero has joined #maturity 15:03:59 present+ 15:04:04 present+ 15:04:05 CharlesL has joined #maturity 15:04:45 agenda? 15:04:46 /issues/129 -> #129 15:04:46 /issues/155 -> #155 15:04:46 /issues/52 -> #52 15:05:30 jkline has joined #maturity 15:05:39 present+ 15:05:52 before i get dropped as usual! 15:06:52 present+ 15:07:28 do people need the link: https://w3c.zoom.us/j/84254443584?pwd=SmtJV2lRSmRPU0h4SjJnZnVPK3BEZz09 15:07:33 anyone else joining zom? 15:14:38 JXZ has joined #maturity 15:15:09 present+ 15:15:40 scribe:jxz 15:15:53 scribe+ 15:16:06 zakim, next item 15:16:06 agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio] 15:16:22 jkline has joined #maturity 15:16:32 present+ 15:16:35 again 15:17:28 Topic: Maturity Model at TPAC 15:19:45 TPAC Proposed Maturity Model Task Force Agenda:Is the APA AMM ready for publication? Why? 15:19:45 Is the APA AMM NOT ready for publication? Why? 15:19:45 Are our approaches sufficiently coordinated? How do we do better? 15:19:45 Is the Equity CG a snapshot of APA AMM? At what point? How maintaining synchronization? 15:19:47 Has Equity (others) discovered an incompatability to the APA AMM that requires resolution? 15:27:29 +1 to agenda for TPAC 15:27:51 Issue: reword Equity agenda item for clarity and purpose. 15:27:51 Sorry, I don't know what repository to use. 15:28:15 zakim, next item 15:28:15 agendum 2 -- Github Issue GitHub Issue #155 Section 3.4: maturity also depends on how effective the ICT development processes are in producing accessible ICT. - Update -- taken up 15:28:15 /issues/155 -> #155 15:28:18 ... [from Fazio] 15:28:52 CharlesL has left #maturity 15:29:40 Jeff has proposed updated language, accepted by filer, and made edits to the Spreadsheet. Edits to Maturity Model document are still needed, once TF approves language 15:31:14 Issue 155 proposed change: new subtopic labeled "Dimension Goals and Metrics" to each dimension with a singe proof point underneath that says: 15:31:14 "Dimension related goals established, metrics defined, and progress tracked" and will add to all worksheet tabs with concurrence 15:33:58 RESOLUTION: language approved 15:34:01 General approval 15:34:41 Sorry I can't unmute because there's a lot of noise here. This is a detail but still important. In our page in the "Internal resources needed to implement the maturity model at your organization" section, there is a table and it says Y and N. When you translate it automatically into spanish Ns are read as "North". I think we should use the word 15:34:41 instead of just the letter "Y" or "N". 15:35:35 q? 15:39:43 Issue: Susi to add GitHub issue to address Y and N in tables, review section 4.1 and if still needed, use Yes and No instead of abbreviations 15:39:43 Sorry, I don't know what repository to use. 15:40:09 Susi will create Git issue for this 15:40:25 zakim, next item 15:40:25 agendum 3 -- GitHub Issue #129 Conflict in position Training Knowledge and Skills Vs. DLC -- taken up [from Fazio] 15:40:25 /issues/129 -> #129 15:40:25 Action: Susi to add GitHub issue to address Y and N in tables, review section 4.1 and if still needed, use Yes and No instead of abbreviations 15:40:32 Sorry, I don't know what repository to use. 15:44:13 Proposed response: Training proof points have been added to each dimension. We believe the latest Editors Draft addresses this concern. If you still find an issue with it, please file a new GitHub Issue. 15:44:24 +1 15:44:28 +1 15:45:01 Resolution: closing issue with proposed response 15:45:10 zakim, next item 15:45:10 agendum 4 -- GitHub Issue #52 Section 2 (and elsewhere, if necessary): broaden the range of standards relevant to the maturity model. -- taken up [from Fazio] 15:45:10 /issues/52 -> #52 15:54:55 Please take a look at the latest Editors Draft. We believe we have addressed this issue. We call your attention to section 1.1 and 1.3: The Accessibility Maturity Model has been developed using research of existing maturity models and standards outside of WCAG. For example, 15:54:55 ISO/IEC 30071-1:2019 Information Technology - Development Of User Interface Accessibility - Part 1: Code Of Practice For Creating Accessible ICT Products And Services 15:54:55 This ISO standard includes specifics to the incorporation of accessibility practices into the design and development process. This is orthogonal to the Accessibility Maturity Model which provides a way to assess an organization's accessibility maturity in dimensions beyond the design and development process. Adherence to ISO 30071-1:2019 could be 15:54:55 used as a [proof point](https://w3c.github.io/maturity-model/#dfn-proof-point) for the maturity of the ICT Development Lifecycle dimension. 15:54:57 Please, let us know if you agree and we can close this issue? 15:56:55 Resolution: closing issue with proposed response 15:57:15 zakim, end meeting 15:57:15 As of this point the attendees have been Dr_Keith, stacey, Mark_Miller, AngelaBarker, jkline, SusiPallero, JXZ 15:57:17 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 15:57:18 I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/08/28-maturity-minutes.html Zakim 15:57:25 I am happy to have been of service, JXZ; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye 15:57:25 Zakim has left #maturity