Meeting minutes
Reminder, F2F meeting survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/114156/f2f-2025/
wilco: survey due next week
… looks like it'll be in Europe
Changing meeting time?
wilco: we aren't running TF meetings every week since we have joint CG meetings every other week
daniel: WCAG2ICT meetings conflict
wilco: we are considering moving the TF call to 10am Eastern
daniel: when WCAG2ICT move to maintenance, I can work out alternating meetings
helen: no
tom: easier for me
helen: no conflict for me
daniel: CG chairs had conflict with changing to TF time
wilco: TF doesn't need to meet every week. Hoping that less frequent meetings allow for work to be done
… any concerns with TF just meeting every other week
… let's discuss with CG chairs before final decision
Composite rule applicability
wilco: this came out of new rule for target size
… a lot of complexity and exceptions. Each pass scenario is it's own rule
… exceptions in separate rules
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helen: exceptions should be in a composite
wilco: can atomic rule be used in applicability as an exception to the applicability?
… option 2 is to use a definition of the exception
tom: want to avoid test cases that cause conflicts
wilco: rules format avoids complex relationships between rules
… composite rules can use atomic rules but not other composite rules
tom: worried exceptions are not documented
wilco: this rule adds 2 exceptions to the applicability of 2 rules
tom: separate exceptions as definitions
wilco: definition is complex
… and test cases would need to be duplicated
… in the target size rule, option 1 would move 3 of the 7 rules from expectation to applicability exception
… option 2 the 3 rules that are moved to applicability would be definitions, not rules
… definitions only in composite rule, not atomic rules
… current rules format would repeat the exceptions in every atomic rule
helen: homework needed to identify blockers for the options
tom: atomic rules would need the exceptions noted somewhere
… composite rule exceptions must be in atomic rules?
wilco: currently, yes
… composite rules current inputs are only the results from atomic rules
… current format requires composite and atomic rules to have the same applicability
tom: most concerned that exception in composite are in the atomic
helen: consider wcag3?
kathy: like definitions approach better than rules in the applicability
… lower number of duplicative exception test cases across rules could be managable
<Helen> +1 to the proposition
wilco: propose definition approach to CG
<thbrunet> +1