IRC log of adapt on 2024-07-09

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina

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Meeting: WAI-Adapt Teleconference

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Date: 09 Jul 2024

13:59:35 [Lionel_Wolberger]

agenda+ Introduction, Any Updates?

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agenda+ Scheduling, Summer is here

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agenda+ TPAC Planning

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agenda+ Recruitment

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agenda+ Symbols explainer

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agenda+ WKD Github actions and PRs

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present+

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scribe+

14:00:37 [janina]

present+

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scribe+

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zakim, who's here?

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Present: Lionel_Wolberger, janina

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On IRC I see Russell, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Roy_, dmontalvo, gb

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present+

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present+

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present+

14:04:21 [Lionel_Wolberger]

zakim, next item

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agendum 1 -- Introduction, Any Updates? -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

14:04:38 [matatk]

present+ Abhinav

14:05:41 [janina]

Lionel_Wolberger: Reviews NFB participation; Very interested in what we're doing, esp WKD

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zakim, next item

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agendum 2 -- Scheduling, Summer is here -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

14:07:23 [janina]

Lionel_Wolberger: Regrets next week from Matthew

14:07:53 [janina]

Lionel_Wolberger: Will be on holliday on the 23rd

14:09:47 [janina]

janina: Suggest let's return to this at meetings end

14:09:50 [Lionel_Wolberger]

zakim, next item

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agendum 3 -- TPAC Planning -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

14:14:42 [matatk]

https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/schedule.html

14:15:01 [matatk]

Note: the APA Monday morning meeting is likely to move to a different day to be combined with a different meeting.

14:17:05 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: The TPAC is California time, but we can bring people in via remote

14:17:29 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Russell: I may be interested in attending.

14:17:46 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: You are an invited expert, there is no charge

14:18:40 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: Glad to hear you will participate! The fact that corporations are interested in WKD is persuasive

14:18:42 [Lionel_Wolberger]

zakim, next item

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agendum 4 -- Recruitment -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

14:20:14 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: Suggest we recruit at TPAC and in the fall, as we want to recruit when we have a very regular schedule and clear documents to be read

14:22:55 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Russell: I spoke with someone who is interested.

14:26:43 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Topic: Handout for TPAC

14:27:05 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Lionel_Wolberger: Lionel to bring more of the symbols one-pager

14:27:19 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... consider a one-pager that can express the use case for WKDs

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zakim, next item

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agendum 5 -- Symbols explainer -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

14:29:01 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Topic: Generalizing Symbols

14:29:05 [matatk]

q+ to ask about patches, and the EPUB approah

14:29:39 [matatk]

ack me

14:29:39 [Zakim]

matatk, you wanted to ask about patches, and the EPUB approah

14:29:47 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Lionel_Wolberger: We agreed last week to stick to our scope of AAC-type symbols, as they are used in procedures or topic lists

14:30:08 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... and perhaps once passed, the idea of translatable/transformable symbols might spread

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janina: and people could register themselves

14:30:27 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Topic: Prioritization

14:31:04 [Lionel_Wolberger]

matatk: Would we want to consider prioritization? For example, if a person wants an AAC symbol and an emoji, they could express which has priority

14:31:25 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... some sets of symbols are more comprehensive than others

14:37:02 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... there is a tricky balance between (a) communication remains dynamic and ever evolving (b) communication relies on shared, hence static understandings

14:37:41 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: Proposing priotizing our next step: update the documents prior to TPAC

14:38:32 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... (a) make a list of the docs 1. AAC spec 2.Registry spec 3.Explainer 4.Home page

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... (b) commit to updating them prior TPAC, and log this in the Issue 240

14:41:23 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: (1) AAC spec is in CR since Vancouver '22

14:41:48 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... (2) Registry is in FPWD since 2022 and needs updating in light of Issue 240 discussion

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... (3) Explainer need updating in light of Issue 240 discussion.

14:42:42 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Lionel_Wolberger: Explainer may benefit from an 'out of scope' section.

14:45:31 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: I agree to work with Russel on the documents

14:46:11 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... we will skip 16th and 23rd July due to regrets, vacations. Next meeting 30 July

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zakim, next item

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agendum 6 -- WKD Github actions and PRs -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

14:47:10 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Lionel_Wolberger: Take up the issue of multiple services on a single URL

14:47:32 [Lionel_Wolberger]

matatk: Security considerations may differ depending which part of the URL tree you are focusing on

14:48:25 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... we should review the linksets, Phil Archer suggests we look at RFC 9264, Linksets https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9264.html

14:49:20 [matatk]

https://www.w3.org/2024/09/TPAC/schedule.html

14:49:53 [matatk]

oops

14:49:54 [matatk]

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-adapt/2024May/0015.html

14:55:38 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Lionel_Wolberger: Abhinav agrees to look at the GS1 linksets and bring to our next meeting a gap analysis or comparison

14:56:09 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: It's a kind of due dilligence

14:57:46 [Lionel_Wolberger]

rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/09-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger

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zakim, end meeting

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As of this point the attendees have been Lionel_Wolberger, janina, matatk, Russell, Abhinav

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RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/07/09-adapt-minutes.html Zakim

14:58:24 [Zakim]

I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye

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present-

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