IRC log of matf on 2024-06-05

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13:06:22 [Zakim]

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), JJ

13:06:28 [JJ]

Zakim, this is MATF June 5, 2024

13:06:28 [Zakim]

got it, JJ

13:07:58 [RacheleD]

present+

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IRC cheatsheet: https://github.com/w3c/matf/wiki/IRC-Cheatsheet

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TOPIC: Github workflow

13:10:47 [Aashutosh]

JJ started sharing the Github screen, W3C/matf with the structure of the contribution

13:11:14 [Aashutosh]

JJ suggested tracking of the progress by creation of the issues

13:12:20 [Aashutosh]

JJ shared the structure of the issue, with the source (summary of the discussion)

13:14:04 [Aashutosh]

JJ discussed issues like 1.4.3 and 2.1.4, including the comments added by the other participants

13:15:17 [Aashutosh]

AlainVagner tested the SC 2.1.4 with keyboard over switch access due to the issue they were facing with the full keyboard

13:17:50 [julianmka]

q+

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julianmka ack

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ack julianmka

13:18:50 [Aashutosh]

julianmka to share the keyboard accessibility guidebook with the team

13:20:11 [JJ]

TOPIC: Definition of set of Web pages / set of software programs

13:21:34 [Aashutosh]

JJ shared the issue #11. dealing with the definitions of 4 SC, 2.4.1, 2.4.5, 3.2.3 and 3.2.4

13:23:46 [Aashutosh]

Jamieshared more light on Sets of software programs. #308

13:25:03 [Aashutosh]

Jamie set of webpages refers to website as a concept. while entire app is not a set of screens, but actions are performed across the screens.

13:25:26 [Aashutosh]

Jamie set of web page aligns with the concept of native apps

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julianmka agrees with Jamie

13:27:44 [AlainVagner]

q+

13:28:07 [Aashutosh]

JJ agrees that set of pages maps to native pages

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ack AlainVagner

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+Q

13:30:05 [Aashutosh]

AlainVagner what is screen in the mobile apps and how do we deal with the side effects of adopting this model

13:30:13 [JJ]

ack Jamie

13:30:54 [Aashutosh]

Jamie MATF and Web accessibility relationship?

13:31:25 [Aashutosh]

Jamie if we are a subset, it can be more clear how the main document influences our document.

13:31:44 [Aashutosh]

JJ explained we are at the same level as to WCAG2ICT

13:32:09 [Aashutosh]

JJ we need to maintain the guidance consistent.

13:32:47 [Aashutosh]

JJ we can discuss the same with WCAG2ICT participants and they can take into consideration

13:33:18 [AlainVagner]

q+

13:33:20 [Aashutosh]

JJ will be attending in person meeting in September and discuss collaboration with other workstreams

13:33:30 [Aashutosh]

ack AlainVagner

13:36:14 [Aashutosh]

Jamie The older questions from the WCAG2ICT pertaining to mobile should be added to out github

13:36:47 [Aashutosh]

Jamie Maybe reopen the relevant issues

13:37:24 [Aashutosh]

JJ needs investigation to understand how the issues with closed and then reconsider the solutions

13:38:10 [Aashutosh]

JJ to seek the possibility of group meetings to collaborate

13:39:08 [Aashutosh]

AlainVagner has never seen set of software programs in the mobile world. This issue needs to be addressed

13:39:55 [Aashutosh]

q+

13:40:49 [JJ]

ack Aashutosh

13:41:32 [Aashutosh]

@JJ shared notes where it is mentioned that set of software appears very rarely

13:43:06 [Aashutosh]

Gleindson in brazil there are two different apps, reporting to same bank, and communicating with each other

13:43:27 [Aashutosh]

Jamie The set of web pages definition in WCAG2ICT seems like an almost 1:1 alignment with screens in native apps in Zoom chat

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13:45:22 [JJ]

Zakim, list participants

13:45:22 [Zakim]

As of this point the attendees have been JJ, RacheleD, Carol, AA, julianmka, Joe_Humbert, Mick, Devanshu, quintinb, Carolina, Karla, present, hdv, Double_a, audrey, Jamers, Jamie,

13:45:26 [Zakim]

... AlainVagner, Aashutosh

13:45:46 [JJ]

regrets+ Joe_Humbert

13:45:55 [JJ]

regrets+ Mick

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regrets+ hdv

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regrets+ quintinb

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present+ Gleidson

13:46:31 [JJ]

Zakim, list participants

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As of this point the attendees have been JJ, RacheleD, Carol, AA, julianmka, Joe_Humbert, Mick, Devanshu, quintinb, Carolina, Karla, present, hdv, Double_a, audrey, Jamers, Jamie,

13:46:34 [Zakim]

... AlainVagner, Aashutosh, Gleidson

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present- Joe_Humbert

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Zakim, list participants

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As of this point the attendees have been JJ, RacheleD, Carol, AA, julianmka, Joe_Humbert, Mick, Devanshu, quintinb, Carolina, Karla, present, hdv, Double_a, audrey, Jamers, Jamie,

13:46:48 [Zakim]

... AlainVagner, Aashutosh, Gleidson

13:47:00 [JJ]

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Zakim, list participants

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As of this point the attendees have been JJ, RacheleD, Carol, AA, julianmka, Joe_Humbert, Mick, Devanshu, quintinb, Carolina, Karla, present, hdv, Double_a, audrey, Jamers, Jamie,

15:26:29 [Zakim]

... AlainVagner, Aashutosh, Gleidson

15:30:38 [JJ]

present- Joe_Humbert

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Zakim, list participants

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As of this point the attendees have been JJ, RacheleD, Carol, AA, julianmka, Joe_Humbert, Mick, Devanshu, quintinb, Carolina, Karla, present, hdv, Double_a, audrey, Jamers, Jamie,

15:30:47 [Zakim]

... AlainVagner, Aashutosh, Gleidson

15:31:13 [JJ]

help

15:31:17 [JJ]

Zakim, help

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Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.

15:31:19 [Zakim]

Some of the commands I know are:

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15:31:22 [Zakim]

I last learned something new on $Date: 2020/12/31 21:20:53 $

15:31:46 [JJ]

regrets+ Devanshu

15:32:00 [JJ]

present- present

15:32:06 [JJ]

regrets+ present

15:32:09 [JJ]

Zakim, list participants

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As of this point the attendees have been JJ, RacheleD, Carol, AA, julianmka, Joe_Humbert, Mick, Devanshu, quintinb, Carolina, Karla, present, hdv, Double_a, audrey, Jamers, Jamie,

15:32:12 [Zakim]

... AlainVagner, Aashutosh, Gleidson

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Zakim, make minutes

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I don't understand 'make minutes', JJ

15:33:19 [JJ]

rrsagent, make minutes

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