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18:41:05 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
18:41:20 <janina> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge Community Group Teleconference
18:41:26 <janina> date: 05 Jun 2024
18:41:30 <janina> Chair: Janina
18:41:39 <janina> agenda+ H2 Review in Capabilities
18:41:45 <janina> zakim, next item
18:41:45 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- H2 Review in Capabilities -- taken up [from janina]
18:41:52 <janina> present+
18:41:55 <janina> scribe +
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18:42:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
18:42:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Chris
18:42:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
18:42:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
18:44:12 <janina> We're looking at H2 under each H1:
18:44:13 <janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-a11yedge/2024Jun/0000.html
18:45:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We have not reviewed the H@s in a while
18:45:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... some may be fine as they are
18:45:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... some may need to be moved to a different H1
18:46:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... some may need to merge and aggregate into a new, combined H2
18:46:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... some may need to be eliminated
18:46:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> . some may need to turn into H3s
18:46:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
18:46:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
18:47:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
18:47:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
18:47:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
18:47:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Jason
18:51:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: 3.1 content editing does not reflect the H3s encompassed. Come up with a better title.
18:53:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> . 3.2 User Feedback -- this is the same as 6.2.4, can be removed
18:54:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> . 3.3 move to Management
18:57:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: For 3.4 Video Captioning, edge can do this at the user's behest, even if source does not provide it
19:01:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: The difference to me between something in the HTML layer and something in the functionality layer
19:02:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> . content does not need to respond to any callbacks
19:02:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> . if a feature of the page depends on a callback, that requires another level of interaction
19:02:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> . as you will need to trigger the callback in order to make the result accessible
19:03:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: If it's part of source, you can generate it on the fly
19:03:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> . if the captions are being generated on the fly in an interactive layer, then each experience is unique
19:05:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
19:05:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
19:10:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger:  3.5 PDF, looks ok to me as an H2
19:11:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> . it needs its subheadings source, trade-offs, etc
19:14:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> . Automatability = in some cases
19:17:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: 3.6 Text Services (Semiotics)
19:18:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> . the academic word 'semiotics' refers to the fact that these are words, in reference to their meaning
19:19:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> . I am not sure that 'dictionary', 'live site translations' and 'read content aloud' belong here in the HTML section
19:22:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: This H2, 'Text Services (semiotics)' can stay, but needs to move to section 3, Functionality
19:24:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: For "CSS" Look at the paragraph under the first H2, some of the text belongs under the H1
19:25:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> . typo change Mmanage to manage
19:26:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> . move 5.6.3 and 5.6.4 (Manage focus) move up to this H2,
19:27:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: Correctly Indicate Focus is the desired title
19:27:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: an H3 under the H2 'cursor and focus'
19:29:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Change 4.2.7 Images & Graphics to an H2
19:30:02 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Next week
19:30:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: No meeting next week, as I am at the United Nations for COSP-17
19:31:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> Topic: Miscellaneous
19:31:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chris: A lot of positional refining and other edits taking place with much progress!
19:31:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> . At some point, will feedback be sought from others outside of this group?
19:31:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Anyone can join at any time
19:32:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> jason: just share it and people can comment on github, as if they are in this meeting.
19:32:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chris: There is an open invitation but people may not be aware of the group and what it is doing
19:32:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> . a reach-out or public invitation might be in order
19:33:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We have done that and will do it again.
19:34:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
19:34:16 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Chris, Jason
19:34:18 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:34:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/06/05-a11yedge-minutes.html Zakim
19:34:25 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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