IRC log of rqtf on 2024-05-29
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jasonjgw
- 12:06:08 [jasonjgw]
- present+
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- chair: jasonjgw
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- scribe+
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- agenda+ Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements.
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- agenda+ Artificial intelligence, machine learning, and accessibility.
- 12:06:17 [jasonjgw]
- agenda+ Miscellaneous updates and topics.
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- present+
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- agenda?
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- present+ John_Paton
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- scribe+
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- scribe+
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:05:29 [JPaton]
- jasonjgw: CFC is now open and runs to midnight Boston time
- 13:06:12 [janina]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2024May/0004.html
- 13:06:56 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: notes that the CfC is open to the whole of APA, and Task Forces are encouraged to respond to each other's work.
- 13:07:38 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: still considering questions to be asked of reviewers.
- 13:08:01 [jasonjgw]
- janina: asks whether the complexity management quesiton is the over-arching theme of CTAUR.
- 13:08:41 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: considers highlithing the social considerations section (in the messaging) - how do you understand what we're saying, and should we say more?
- 13:09:22 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: notes the distinction between the collaborative features, and the type of content being edited (text, code, video, etc.).
- 13:09:46 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: suggests asking reviewers whether the distinction has been adequately clarified.
- 13:10:24 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: wishes to raise questions on those three matters. The document won't advance this week, giving us time to fine-tune the announcements.
- 13:10:36 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: Notes editorial corrections to the document that will also be incorporated.
- 13:14:46 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: notes that W3C/WAI administration will be involved as the announcement text is worked on.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Artificial intelligence, machine learning, and accessibility. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:16:37 [janina]
- jasonjgw: Notes Scott unavailable to advance this past week, so no updates today
- 13:17:13 [janina]
- jasonjgw: Notes Gregg Vanderheiden paper at CHI Conference
- 13:17:20 [janina]
- jasonjgw: Paper now published
- 13:19:07 [jasonjgw]
- https://dl.acm.org/doi/full/10.1145/3613905.3644059
- 13:19:25 [janina]
- jasonjgw: Asks for thoughts on titling our work in this area
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- janina: It matters now because we need to name our github repository
- 13:20:46 [janina]
- jasonjgw: Suggests "AI, ML and Web Accessibility"
- 13:20:56 [janina]
- janina: Suggests "in" not "and web a11y"
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- present+ Scott
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- Scott Digital?
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- AIML in WA
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- janina: Asks whether ai ml is redundant
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- present+ Raja
- 13:23:12 [janina]
- raja: Have seen how ml is included; ai is more broad as a subject
- 13:23:20 [janina]
- raja: But they're so similar
- 13:24:16 [janina]
- raja: Thinking Wizard of Oz; hard to identify AI that isn't ML
- 13:25:11 [janina]
- raja: When one thinks ethics, better to sayh ethics in AI as opposed to in ML
- 13:26:19 [janina]
- janina: Suggest also that we're working in W3C space, so "web" is to be presumed
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- janina: AI-A11y?
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- jasonjgw: A related question on scope
- 13:27:38 [janina]
- jasonjgw: Recalls interest and relation from EO when we worked on RTC
- 13:28:40 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: notes that all of W3C/WAI will be intersted in the topic.
- 13:29:09 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: there's already interest from the broader APA Working Group in participating.
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- Janina: asks about accessibility authoring requirements.
- 13:37:54 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: notes that mobile accessibility raises further opportunities and issues. For example, navigation applications could be in scope.
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- Janina: suggests we discuss lag time due to server involvement and ML processing.
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- Discussion of neural processing hardwawre and implications for latency.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- Miscellaneous updates and topics. -- taken up [from jasonjgw]
- 13:50:42 [jasonjgw]
- Janina: will be here next week, but not the following week.
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, John_Paton, Scott, Raja
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/29-rqtf-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, jasonjgw; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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