IRC log of maturity on 2024-05-15
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-maturity-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio
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- meeting: Maturity Model
- 14:55:58 [Fazio]
- Agenda+ New Business
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- Agenda+ Maturity Model Scoring Subgroup Update
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- Agenda+ Github Issue #107 Definition of "Full maturity" needs to be adjusted, as there is no need to optimize anymore by then
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- Agenda+ Github Issue #154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included?
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- /issues/107 -> #107
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- /issues/154 -> #154
- 14:57:19 [Fazio]
- Agenda+ Github Issues 43, 78, 85, 102, 103, 104 (Usability doc feedback) – Look at Procurement Dimension
- 14:57:42 [Fazio]
- Agenda+ Github #156 Issue Section 3.5: proof points should consider whether people with disabilities actually were included in the workforce as a result of the efforts made.
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- /issues/156 -> #156
- 14:59:24 [Mark_Miller]
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- 15:02:13 [janina]
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- present+
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- present+
- 15:02:42 [NehaJadhav]
- present+
- 15:02:43 [janina]
- zakim, who's here?
- 15:02:43 [Zakim]
- Present: janina, jkline, NehaJadhav
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- On IRC I see jkline, janina, Mark_Miller, NehaJadhav, RRSAgent, Zakim, Fazio, gb, kevin, alastairc
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- scribe+
- 15:04:40 [NehaJadhav]
- scribe+
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- zakim,next item
- 15:05:02 [Zakim]
- agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
- 15:06:11 [Dr_Keith]
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- 15:07:18 [NehaJadhav]
- jkline presented work in one of presentation in Austin, IAAP is also working on maturity model.. Need to check that work
- 15:09:12 [NehaJadhav]
- Fazio IAAP working on smart city maturity model and not on web accessiblity - 4 years back update
- 15:11:58 [NehaJadhav]
- zakim, next tiem
- 15:11:58 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'next tiem', NehaJadhav
- 15:12:04 [NehaJadhav]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Maturity Model Scoring Subgroup Update -- taken up [from Fazio]
- 15:12:52 [NehaJadhav]
- no update from scoring group
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- zakim, next item
- 15:12:54 [Zakim]
- agendum 2 was just opened, NehaJadhav
- 15:13:01 [NehaJadhav]
- zakim, close item
- 15:13:01 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'close item', NehaJadhav
- 15:13:07 [NehaJadhav]
- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 2 closed
- 15:13:08 [Zakim]
- I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 15:13:08 [Zakim]
- 3. Github Issue #107 Definition of "Full maturity" needs to be adjusted, as there is no need to optimize anymore by then [from Fazio]
- 15:13:08 [gb]
- /issues/107 -> #107
- 15:13:11 [NehaJadhav]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3 -- Github Issue #107 Definition of "Full maturity" needs to be adjusted, as there is no need to optimize anymore by then -- taken up [from Fazio]
- 15:13:43 [Fazio]
- Github Issue #107 Definition of "Full maturity" needs to be adjusted, as there is no need to optimize anymore by then
- 15:14:08 [Fazio]
- https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/107
- 15:14:09 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/107 -> Issue 107 Definition of "Full maturity" needs to be adjusted, as there is no need to optimize anymore by then (by jake-abma)
- 15:14:10 [jkline]
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- present+
- 15:18:33 [NehaJadhav]
- Mark_Miller Optimization is the continuous process so it should be optimizing/ optimal. It is not completed, still there can be something to improve
- 15:19:20 [CharlesL]
- q+
- 15:19:35 [NehaJadhav]
- ack CharlesL
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- 15:20:16 [NehaJadhav]
- CharlesL We need to work on changing stage names
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- present+
- 15:21:41 [NehaJadhav]
- janina we should reject issue and close it
- 15:22:28 [Mark_Miller]
- You are not complete when you are fully mature. In the fully mature stage, you should have processes in place to continue optimization. Optimal implies optimization does not continue. CMMI defines the final level of maturity as:
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- Maturity Level 5: Optimizing
- 15:22:28 [Mark_Miller]
- Stable and flexible. Organization is focused on continuous improvement and is built to pivot and respond to opportunity and change. The organization’s stability provides a platform for agility and innovation.
- 15:24:35 [Fazio]
- Close issue 107 with comment: A maturity Model is a continuum, there is no end point. The Task Force has decided to keep the term optimize, as it suggests an ongoing effort without an end point.
- 15:25:12 [NehaJadhav]
- RESOLUTION: Close issue 107 with comment: A maturity Model is a continuum, there is no end point. The Task Force has decided to keep the term optimize, as it suggests an ongoing effort without an end point.
- 15:25:39 [NehaJadhav]
- zakim, next item
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- agendum 4 -- Github Issue #154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included? -- taken up [from Fazio]
- 15:25:39 [gb]
- /issues/154 -> #154
- 15:25:51 [Fazio]
- https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/154
- 15:25:52 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/154 -> Issue 154 Section 3.3.1: can a measure of support effectiveness be included? (by jasonjgw)
- 15:27:53 [NehaJadhav]
- Dr_Keith there is already a way to add proof points
- 15:28:34 [NehaJadhav]
- janina It is a good thing to add measure of support effectiveness
- 15:29:24 [NehaJadhav]
- Jeff : It is not saying to add standard but to include it
- 15:30:42 [NehaJadhav]
- Jeff: It is mentioned in one of the proof point
- 15:40:15 [NehaJadhav]
- Jeff : we should find a way to include this measure to include
- 15:40:39 [NehaJadhav]
- A long discussion of proof points and outcomes and their mapping
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- present+
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- q?
- 15:47:03 [janina]
- q?
- 15:59:00 [NehaJadhav]
- RRAgent, make minutes
- 15:59:10 [Fazio]
- please make minutes
- 15:59:18 [Fazio]
- oh thx
- 15:59:20 [NehaJadhav]
- RRAgent, make the minutes
- 15:59:37 [Fazio]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-maturity-minutes.html Fazio
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- zakim, bye
- 16:53:34 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been janina, jkline, NehaJadhav, stacey
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items