IRC log of pointerevents on 2024-05-08

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14:53:02 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Meeting: PEWG
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Chair: Patrick H. Lauke
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Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6246bc85-4dae-43a8-a50c-9bc5a0829585/20240508T110000/
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Scribe: Patrick H. Lauke
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present- flackr
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present+ smaug
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Last week's minutes https://www.w3.org/2024/04/24-pointerevents-minutes.html
15:03:07 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
present+ mustaq
15:03:23 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
TOPIC: Multi-pen support and persistent pointerId #353 https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/353
15:04:22 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Olli: I just commented on the pull request https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/pull/495
15:04:51 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Patrick: we'll continue iterating on this, as it's not urgent/for v3
15:05:12 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Mustaq: microsoft are landing WPTs / manual tests with deviceId
15:05:27 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Olli: if they didn't catch this comment/issue in the PR, they'll need to tweak
15:05:41 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
ACTION: continue to iterate / check on WPTs that were filed
15:05:53 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
TOPIC: Meta-issue: update WPT to cover Pointer Events Level 3 #445 https://github.com/w3c/pointerevents/issues/445
15:06:15 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Patrick: does anybody need help? any blockers?
15:06:23 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Olli: not had time recently
15:06:26 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Mustaq: same
15:06:41 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Olli: we should set aside a week/time to push on these
15:07:43 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
ACTION: olli/mustaq to coordinate solid time to collaborate and push on last remaining WPTs
15:08:38 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
TOPIC: Touch Events CG
15:11:27 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
More of a heads-up that the touch events CG, due to inactivity, is earmarked to be closed. do we want to continue, or gracefully close it? i mean even Apple etc have deemphasised TE and are all in on PE, so this is legacy
15:11:44 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Olli: would be good to add a note at the top to say as much
15:12:07 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Patrick: annoyingly, the only official published spec is the old v1, and no linking back to the community note https://www.w3.org/TR/touch-events/
15:15:28 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Olli: links on the CG page are also not working/404
15:16:56 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
Patrick: I'll investigate if there's any kind of way of surfacing our community note a bit more even from the official TR (though doubt it) and to add a preamble to the CG version's intro to explain that while the note reflects reality more (as it documents things like azimuthAngle that were introduced by Apple later on), TE as a whole are considered legacy technology and that authors are encouraged to transition to PE instead
15:17:25 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
ACTION: Patrick to gracefully close Touch Events CG, update TE2 note
15:17:34 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/05/08-pointerevents-minutes.html Patrick_H_Lauke
15:18:16 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
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15:19:15 [Patrick_H_Lauke]
hmmm, minutes don't seem to want to publish today...
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I see 3 open action items saved in https://www.w3.org/2024/05/08-pointerevents-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: continue to iterate / check on WPTs that were filed [1]
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recorded in https://www.w3.org/2024/05/08-pointerevents-irc#T15-05-41
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ACTION: olli/mustaq to coordinate solid time to collaborate and push on last remaining WPTs [2]
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recorded in https://www.w3.org/2024/05/08-pointerevents-irc#T15-07-43
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ACTION: Patrick to gracefully close Touch Events CG, update TE2 note [3]
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recorded in https://www.w3.org/2024/05/08-pointerevents-irc#T15-17-25