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13:59:22 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
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14:00:47 <janina> Meeting: Adapt Weekly Teleconference
14:01:01 <janina> Chair: Lionel
14:01:07 <janina> agenda?
14:01:09 <Russell> present+
14:01:11 <janina> present+
14:02:11 <janina> date: 17 Apr 2024
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14:03:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Introduction, Any Updates?
14:03:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ WKD Follow-up from Matt
14:03:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ WKD Github actions and PRs
14:03:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Issue 240 finalization
14:03:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Symbols explainer
14:03:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
14:03:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
14:04:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> meeting: Weekly Teleconference
14:06:05 <janina> present+
14:06:08 <matatk> present+
14:06:12 <janina> scribe+
14:08:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Discussed coming meetings.
14:09:06 <janina> We'll post re next week
14:09:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:09:15 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Introduction, Any Updates? -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:09:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
14:09:22 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:09:23 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:09:23 <Zakim> 2. WKD Follow-up from Matt [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:09:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:09:25 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- WKD Follow-up from Matt -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:09:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: AC meeting went very well, the presentation was received well.
14:10:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we have follow-ups.
14:11:53 <janina> q+ to suggest answer to "how many" is "enough"
14:12:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... multiple domains and sub-somains is one potential obstacle. Abhinav mentioned this
14:12:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... "rel" was mentioned as a potential substitute
14:13:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... "rel" will only provide the 'well known' information on a particular page, not for the entire site
14:13:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... For the 'rel' objection, suggest we check in with COGA as to the use case
14:14:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... feedback was generally positive.
14:14:26 <Lionel_Wolberger> q+
14:14:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> ack janina
14:14:40 <Zakim> janina, you wanted to suggest answer to "how many" is "enough"
14:15:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: How many? There are enough sites around the web that do it with subdomains, so we will need to handle that use case
14:15:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: We could use the HTTP Archive and Abhinav's experience to see if we can find some useful data on the % that is structured in that way
14:16:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Leonie posed a use case: what about a website for a hotel that has multiple contact pages: one for the spa, one for the hotel
14:16:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the answer seemed that there could be a switchboard page, a main 'contact' page that could route to all the others
14:21:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... seems to be three colors (a) 1:1, one subdomain (b) a middle condition, 1:1 with exceptions (c) 1:many, one to many
14:21:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: ASked clarifying questions about subdomains
14:22:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> s/ASked/Asked
14:23:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the objection, to my mind, is not about sub-domains. It is about hosting distinct services, distinguished by their path
14:24:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... e.g. a site that has very different services under folder names: mysite.com/gameworld, mysite.com/boatrides, mysite.com/catfood
14:24:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> Abhinav: WKD is domain-wide as currently written
14:26:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: We need clarity around the use cases
14:26:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... it is helpful to know all of the WKDs that a site supports, when you go there
14:26:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... I feel we should check in with COGA on that
14:27:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: they tend to state the use case centered on the user, they need to focus
14:34:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: "rel" can live with WKD quite nicely
14:35:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> matatk: "rel" can indicate what's significant on the page, it does not conflict with the site-wide WKD
14:36:23 <matatk> scribe+
14:36:30 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:36:30 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, matatk
14:36:33 <matatk> q?
14:36:35 <matatk> ack Lionel_Wolberger
14:36:38 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:36:38 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- WKD Github actions and PRs -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:36:48 <matatk> zakim, close this item
14:36:48 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:36:49 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:36:49 <Zakim> 4. Issue 240 finalization [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:36:51 <matatk> zakim, next item
14:36:51 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Issue 240 finalization -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:37:48 <matatk> Russell: sent some suggestions on placeholder codes to use; refining the format of the number representation.
14:38:01 <matatk> Russell: Longer-term we were to talk about the explainer
14:43:00 <matatk> matatk: discussed including the numbers of concepts vs code points being included, to emphasize authoring considerations
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14:43:41 <matatk> scribe+
14:43:51 <matatk> Russell: reminder of https://blissary.com/
14:44:34 <matatk> Russell: we could reference these as authoring tools
14:46:56 <matatk> matatk: *checked how the authoring example would look - Russell confirms there would be two visually apparent bliss characters next to eachotehr*
14:47:38 <matatk> Russell: For authoring, there is making existing concepts out of current symbols, and there is also the creation of new symbols - which is a long-term community effort.
14:48:36 <matatk> Russell: The authoring tool should support accepted concepts primarily. The creation of new symbols is a community specific effort (and wouldn't be the same across symbol sets).
14:51:55 <matatk> q?
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