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11:04:00 <kaz> meeting: WoT Use Cases
11:05:13 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ege_Korkan
11:08:31 <kaz> present+ Mahda_Noura
11:10:32 <kaz> present+ Jan_Romann
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11:11:13 <Ege> scribenick: Ege
11:11:50 <Ege> topic: Agenda
11:12:03 <kaz> agenda: https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/TODO/20240403.md
11:12:20 <Ege> tm: logistics, plan and mintues review first. Then we will finalize the template and look at the schedule for publicatino
11:13:18 <Ege> tm: Apr-10, Apr-17 and May-1 calls are cancelled
11:13:32 <Ege> topic: Plan
11:14:15 <Ege> tm: We had a plan last week and now I am presenting an updated version of it
11:15:19 <Ege> q+
11:16:09 <kaz> q+
11:16:21 <kaz> [[
11:16:21 <kaz> Apr-3: Finalize basic Use Cases template; quickly skim the publication schedule
11:16:21 <kaz> Apr-24 / May-8: Fix basic Functional Requirements template based on a concrete eample
11:16:21 <kaz> May-15 and May-22: Fix basic Technical Requirements based on a concrete example
11:16:22 <kaz> ]]
11:16:24 <Ege> ek: I am not sure if I understand the days after toay
11:17:08 <Ege> kaz: fix means finalization in this case
11:17:22 <Ege> tm: any objections or opinions to the plan?
11:18:16 <Ege> topic: Minutes Review and Discussion points
11:18:22 <Ege> tm: last week's minutes are here
11:18:36 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2024/03/27-wot-uc-minutes.html Mar-27
11:18:51 <Ege> tm: after some logistics, we discussed the UC template
11:20:28 <Ege> tm: any objections?
11:20:36 <kaz> q?
11:20:38 <kaz> ack e
11:20:39 <kaz> ack k
11:21:36 <Ege> topic: Finalizing Template
11:21:40 <Tomo> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template-2024.md use-case-template-2024.md
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11:24:29 <luca_barbato> present+
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11:25:50 <Ege> tm: any objections on the UC template?
11:26:05 <kaz> present+ Luca_Barbato
11:26:17 <kaz> present- luca_barbato
11:26:24 <Tomo> Proposal: use-case-template-2024.md as the basic template is approved.
11:26:24 <kaz> zakim, who is on the call?
11:26:24 <Zakim> Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ege_Korkan, Mahda_Noura, Jan_Romann
11:26:56 <kaz> present+ Luca_Barbato
11:27:28 <Ege> Proposal: Accept use-case-template-2024.md as the basic template
11:28:35 <Tomo> Resolution: Accept use-case-template-2024.md as the basic template
11:29:27 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
11:29:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:29:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/03-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
11:29:40 <kaz> q-
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11:30:26 <Ege> Topic: Further Discussion on the Template
11:30:51 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template-2024.md new template
11:30:57 <Ege> subtopic: How to apply existing guidelines within the old template?
11:31:05 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template.md old template
11:31:32 <kaz> s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template-2024.md new template||
11:31:42 <kaz> i|old template|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template-2024.md new template|
11:31:49 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:31:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/03-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz
11:32:06 <Ege> q_
11:32:08 <Ege> q+
11:32:13 <Tomo> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/README.md
11:32:13 <kaz> s/q_//
11:33:50 <Ege> tm: We have the guidelines in the previous template as 1-2 sentence at each title
11:34:08 <Ege> ek: we can use it and then we should link or give a specific example. E.g. what is a target user example
11:34:52 <kaz> q+
11:34:54 <kaz> ack e
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11:37:44 <mahda> q+
11:38:42 <kaz> chair: Mizushima
11:39:35 <Ege> tm: I would like to work on the flow of how someone uses
11:39:43 <Ege> subtopic: PR 280
11:39:47 <kaz> s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/README.md||
11:39:51 <Ege> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/280
11:40:19 <kaz> i|I would like to work|subtopic: README.md|
11:40:29 <Ege> q+
11:40:42 <kaz> i|I would like|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/README.md README.md|
11:40:57 <kaz> q+
11:41:29 <Ege> mn: Could you clarify if we want to use this template on the existing use cases?
11:41:41 <kaz> s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/280|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/280 PR 280 - update README.md|
11:41:47 <kaz> ack m
11:43:05 <Ege> tm: This PR is for new submitters
11:43:14 <kaz> ack e
11:44:12 <Ege> ek: Pull Request is only possible for IG members. Does this change mean that only IG members can submit Use Cases?
11:44:46 <kaz> q?
11:45:21 <Ege> tm: good point
11:46:17 <Ege> kaz: I think we can mention that the current readme is vague and we need improvements
11:46:42 <Ege> ... we got UCs from outsiders beforehand via issues so we should mention this explicitely in the readme
11:48:34 <kaz> q-
11:49:29 <Ege> kaz: we can have an issue about this point
11:51:23 <kaz> q?
11:51:53 <Ege> ek: I have created the issue at https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/281
11:54:32 <kaz> q+
11:54:47 <Ege> kaz: this is fine for a starting point
11:55:07 <kaz> s/for/as/
11:56:23 <Ege> tm: if no objections, I would like to merge this PR
11:56:39 <Ege> ek: looks good to me
11:56:48 <Ege> tm: (merged PR 280)
11:57:15 <kaz> q+
11:58:11 <Ege> q+ to clarify what PR we are talking about
11:58:16 <kaz> ack k
12:00:27 <kaz> ack e
12:00:27 <Zakim> Ege, you wanted to clarify what PR we are talking about
12:01:28 <Ege> kaz: It is for the issue above
12:01:51 <Ege> kaz: we can have further brainstorming on the process
12:01:58 <Ege> tm: adjourned
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12:02:37 <kaz> s/process/process, but concrete proposal via a PR should be also welcome :)/
12:02:42 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
12:02:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/03-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz