IRC log of wot-uc on 2024-04-03

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11:04:00 [kaz]

meeting: WoT Use Cases

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present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ege_Korkan

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present+ Mahda_Noura

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present+ Jan_Romann

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11:11:13 [Ege]

scribenick: Ege

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topic: Agenda

11:12:03 [kaz]

agenda: https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/TODO/20240403.md

11:12:20 [Ege]

tm: logistics, plan and mintues review first. Then we will finalize the template and look at the schedule for publicatino

11:13:18 [Ege]

tm: Apr-10, Apr-17 and May-1 calls are cancelled

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topic: Plan

11:14:15 [Ege]

tm: We had a plan last week and now I am presenting an updated version of it

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[[

11:16:21 [kaz]

Apr-3: Finalize basic Use Cases template; quickly skim the publication schedule

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Apr-24 / May-8: Fix basic Functional Requirements template based on a concrete eample

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May-15 and May-22: Fix basic Technical Requirements based on a concrete example

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]]

11:16:24 [Ege]

ek: I am not sure if I understand the days after toay

11:17:08 [Ege]

kaz: fix means finalization in this case

11:17:22 [Ege]

tm: any objections or opinions to the plan?

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topic: Minutes Review and Discussion points

11:18:22 [Ege]

tm: last week's minutes are here

11:18:36 [kaz]

-> https://www.w3.org/2024/03/27-wot-uc-minutes.html Mar-27

11:18:51 [Ege]

tm: after some logistics, we discussed the UC template

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tm: any objections?

11:20:36 [kaz]

q?

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ack e

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ack k

11:21:36 [Ege]

topic: Finalizing Template

11:21:40 [Tomo]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template-2024.md use-case-template-2024.md

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q+

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q+

11:24:29 [luca_barbato]

present+

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11:25:50 [Ege]

tm: any objections on the UC template?

11:26:05 [kaz]

present+ Luca_Barbato

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present- luca_barbato

11:26:24 [Tomo]

Proposal: use-case-template-2024.md as the basic template is approved.

11:26:24 [kaz]

zakim, who is on the call?

11:26:24 [Zakim]

Present: Kaz_Ashimura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, Ege_Korkan, Mahda_Noura, Jan_Romann

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present+ Luca_Barbato

11:27:28 [Ege]

Proposal: Accept use-case-template-2024.md as the basic template

11:28:35 [Tomo]

Resolution: Accept use-case-template-2024.md as the basic template

11:29:27 [kaz]

rrsagent, make log public

11:29:30 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

11:29:32 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/03-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz

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q-

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q+

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11:30:26 [Ege]

Topic: Further Discussion on the Template

11:30:51 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template-2024.md new template

11:30:57 [Ege]

subtopic: How to apply existing guidelines within the old template?

11:31:05 [kaz]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template.md old template

11:31:32 [kaz]

s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template-2024.md new template||

11:31:42 [kaz]

i|old template|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/use-case-template-2024.md new template|

11:31:49 [kaz]

rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/03-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz

11:32:06 [Ege]

q_

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q+

11:32:13 [Tomo]

-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/README.md

11:32:13 [kaz]

s/q_//

11:33:50 [Ege]

tm: We have the guidelines in the previous template as 1-2 sentence at each title

11:34:08 [Ege]

ek: we can use it and then we should link or give a specific example. E.g. what is a target user example

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q+

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ack e

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11:37:44 [mahda]

q+

11:38:42 [kaz]

chair: Mizushima

11:39:35 [Ege]

tm: I would like to work on the flow of how someone uses

11:39:43 [Ege]

subtopic: PR 280

11:39:47 [kaz]

s|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/README.md||

11:39:51 [Ege]

https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/280

11:40:19 [kaz]

i|I would like to work|subtopic: README.md|

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q+

11:40:42 [kaz]

i|I would like|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/blob/main/USE-CASES/README.md README.md|

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q+

11:41:29 [Ege]

mn: Could you clarify if we want to use this template on the existing use cases?

11:41:41 [kaz]

s|https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/280|-">https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/280|-> https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/pull/280 PR 280 - update README.md|

11:41:47 [kaz]

ack m

11:43:05 [Ege]

tm: This PR is for new submitters

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ack e

11:44:12 [Ege]

ek: Pull Request is only possible for IG members. Does this change mean that only IG members can submit Use Cases?

11:44:46 [kaz]

q?

11:45:21 [Ege]

tm: good point

11:46:17 [Ege]

kaz: I think we can mention that the current readme is vague and we need improvements

11:46:42 [Ege]

... we got UCs from outsiders beforehand via issues so we should mention this explicitely in the readme

11:48:34 [kaz]

q-

11:49:29 [Ege]

kaz: we can have an issue about this point

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q?

11:51:53 [Ege]

ek: I have created the issue at https://github.com/w3c/wot-usecases/issues/281

11:54:32 [kaz]

q+

11:54:47 [Ege]

kaz: this is fine for a starting point

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s/for/as/

11:56:23 [Ege]

tm: if no objections, I would like to merge this PR

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ek: looks good to me

11:56:48 [Ege]

tm: (merged PR 280)

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q+

11:58:11 [Ege]

q+ to clarify what PR we are talking about

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ack k

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ack e

12:00:27 [Zakim]

Ege, you wanted to clarify what PR we are talking about

12:01:28 [Ege]

kaz: It is for the issue above

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kaz: we can have further brainstorming on the process

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tm: adjourned

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s/process/process, but concrete proposal via a PR should be also welcome :)/

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/03-wot-uc-minutes.html kaz