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14:55:43 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), PaulG
14:55:43 <PaulG> zakim, agenda?
14:55:44 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
14:55:56 <PaulG> Agenda+ Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements
14:56:07 <PaulG> Agenda+ Github Issues and examples
14:56:16 <PaulG> present+
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15:02:46 <matatk> present+
15:02:49 <matatk> agenda?
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15:03:52 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:03:52 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements -- taken up [from PaulG]
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15:05:16 <PaulG> matatk: will not be in any meetings next week and possibly the week after
15:05:38 <PaulG> matatk: start thinking about TPAC
15:05:53 <PaulG> zakim, take up next item
15:05:53 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Github Issues and examples -- taken up [from PaulG]
15:12:06 <PaulG>   - Drop requirements vendors resist (maybe pick up in phase2 after support)
15:12:06 <PaulG>   - Push for requirements again with few examples (pause/break mostly)
15:12:06 <PaulG>   - Merge with CSS speech and resume/restart
15:12:06 <PaulG>   - Drop it entirely
15:12:40 <PaulG> mhakkinen: we've been talking about CSS speech since the 90's and there were only 2 implementations and there was never any discussion about support in AT
15:13:01 <PaulG> ...a combination spec would fix every use case we have but I don't see that happening
15:13:24 <PaulG> ...break is something we find very useful in education space and want to see support despite the issues
15:14:47 <PaulG> ...vendors have bumped against data-ssml so 1EdTech has moved forward with it as a spec with one read-aloud tool implementation with a subset of features
15:15:14 <PaulG> ...it's close to publish
15:16:00 <PaulG> ...that will be out there as a reference point that this use case is needed
15:17:17 <PaulG> matatk: with the "british left" example, we want to group the works semantically which might have another solution.
15:17:28 <PaulG> ...(words*)
15:18:27 <PaulG> ...css speech could help with that. There was also an issue of the size of spaces would be proportional to the speaking speed rather than something measured in time (s/ms)
15:19:12 <PaulG> mhakkinen: because we're doing this in data-ssml, another spec could co-exist during a transition.
15:19:29 <PaulG> ...we (education context) needed this 7 years ago
15:22:09 <PaulG> we'll put a pin in this for now and come back in a week or two to discuss our route forward with the greater team
15:25:11 <PaulG> let's get some consensus soon
15:26:10 <PaulG> pgrenier@gmail.com
15:26:53 <PaulG> zakim, end the meeting
15:26:53 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been PaulG, matatk, IrfanA
15:26:54 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:26:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/04/01-pronunciation-minutes.html Zakim
15:27:02 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, PaulG; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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