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14:43:46 <john> Scribe: John Lumley
14:44:01 <john> ScribeNick: jwL
14:44:43 <john> ScribeNick: john
14:44:59 <john> chair: steven
14:45:32 <john> Meeting: Invisible XML CG
14:47:22 <john> rrsagent, make records public
14:52:24 <john> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2024Mar/0041.html
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14:56:05 <john> present: john, steven
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14:58:36 <john> present+: bethan, norm
14:59:35 <john> Topic: Previous Actions
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15:01:52 <john> present+: JimS
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15:06:21 <john> present:michael
15:06:33 <john> ACTION 2023-01-10-f: continues
15:06:44 <john> ACTION 2023-11-28-a: completed
15:07:10 <john> ACTION 2023-11-28-c: continues - needs a link
15:07:21 <john> ACTION 2024-02-20-b: completed
15:07:35 <john> ACTION 2024-03-05-a: completed
15:07:48 <john> ACTION 2024-03-05-b: continues
15:08:02 <john> ACTION 2024-03-05-c: continues
15:08:36 <john> Topic: Status reports
15:09:11 <john> No particular progress worth recording now on implementations. Minor merging on testsuites
15:09:52 <john> Topic: Publication of iXML W3C CG Report
15:10:03 <john> Some brokken links.
15:10:13 <john> Action: Steven to check inks
15:10:22 <john> s/inks/links/
15:10:36 <john> Topic: Bug Reports
15:11:02 <john> #224 has been closed.
15:11:07 <john> #227 continues
15:11:15 <john> #233 continues
15:12:16 <john> #139 - permit both grammars - is ACTION 2024-03-05-c which continues
15:12:31 <john> #137 - pending
15:12:48 <john> Topic: v.Next issues
15:13:23 <john> #199 - whitespace between prolog and first rule. No further discussion. Michael will merge
15:13:34 <john> ACTION: michael to merge #199
15:14:02 <john> #202 - Unicode version. Need to review changes
15:14:33 <john> To be reviewed next meeting
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15:15:30 <john> #236 - version number changes.
15:16:08 <john> Norm: grammars without versions assume 1.0 - consensus to permit 'use any you like'
15:16:46 <john> Michael: suggestion 'It is implementation-defined what version shall be used.'
15:17:10 <john> Steven: what objection to using the latest version?
15:17:22 <john> Michael: implemntation-defined
15:17:50 <john> s/implemnation/implementation/
15:18:15 <john> Michael: what about the 'stable'/quality version?
15:19:02 <john> present: john, steven, michael, norm, bethan, jimS
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15:21:04 <john> Agreed: move to implementation-defined rather than default 1.0. Implementations can configure.
15:22:19 <john> ACTION: Norm to draft a PR to define response in the spec. e.g. unrecognised, different options for choice of which version to be used.
15:24:42 <john> JimS: Has the format of the version string been altered? Rather is the prolog defined finally.
15:24:55 <john> Norm: a 1.0 must support a prolog
15:25:40 <cmsmcq> s/a 1.0 must/a conforming 1.0 implementation must/
15:26:06 <john> Reminder - the version is a QuotedString
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15:30:43 <john> Subtopic: #192 Normalizing line endings in input
15:31:26 <john> See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0021.html
15:32:33 <john> Steven: an implementation might not know where the input comes from.
15:33:03 <john> Norm: We should do the same as XML in input normalisation - CR/LF -> LF
15:36:06 <john> Michael: Say nothing, or declare that implementations may permit (user-option) suspension of such normalization
15:38:36 <john> norm: Worth making the deployment of iXML grammars more robust across platforms
15:45:49 <john> Lots of discussion about the possibilities, and possible benefits and costs to user
15:49:40 <john> Action: Norm to draft a section of the spec. to cover this time.
15:50:04 <john> s/time/topic/
15:50:30 <john> Topic: AOB
15:50:53 <john> Next Meeting: 2nd April
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