IRC log of ixml on 2024-03-19

Timestamps are in UTC.

14:43:03 [RRSAgent]
RRSAgent has joined #ixml
14:43:07 [RRSAgent]
logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/03/19-ixml-irc
14:43:46 [john]
Scribe: John Lumley
14:44:01 [john]
ScribeNick: jwL
14:44:43 [john]
ScribeNick: john
14:44:59 [john]
chair: steven
14:45:32 [john]
Meeting: Invisible XML CG
14:47:22 [john]
rrsagent, make records public
14:52:24 [john]
agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2024Mar/0041.html
14:54:28 [Steven]
Steven has joined #ixml
14:54:59 [Steven]
rrsagent, here
14:54:59 [RRSAgent]
See https://www.w3.org/2024/03/19-ixml-irc#T14-54-59
14:56:05 [john]
present: john, steven
14:57:23 [Steven]
rrsagent, make logs public
14:58:36 [john]
present+: bethan, norm
14:59:35 [john]
Topic: Previous Actions
14:59:40 [norm]
norm has joined #ixml
15:01:52 [john]
present+: JimS
15:06:07 [cmsmcq]
cmsmcq has joined #ixml
15:06:21 [john]
present:michael
15:06:33 [john]
ACTION 2023-01-10-f: continues
15:06:44 [john]
ACTION 2023-11-28-a: completed
15:07:10 [john]
ACTION 2023-11-28-c: continues - needs a link
15:07:21 [john]
ACTION 2024-02-20-b: completed
15:07:35 [john]
ACTION 2024-03-05-a: completed
15:07:48 [john]
ACTION 2024-03-05-b: continues
15:08:02 [john]
ACTION 2024-03-05-c: continues
15:08:36 [john]
Topic: Status reports
15:09:11 [john]
No particular progress worth recording now on implementations. Minor merging on testsuites
15:09:52 [john]
Topic: Publication of iXML W3C CG Report
15:10:03 [john]
Some brokken links.
15:10:13 [john]
Action: Steven to check inks
15:10:22 [john]
s/inks/links/
15:10:36 [john]
Topic: Bug Reports
15:11:02 [john]
#224 has been closed.
15:11:07 [john]
#227 continues
15:11:15 [john]
#233 continues
15:12:16 [john]
#139 - permit both grammars - is ACTION 2024-03-05-c which continues
15:12:31 [john]
#137 - pending
15:12:48 [john]
Topic: v.Next issues
15:13:23 [john]
#199 - whitespace between prolog and first rule. No further discussion. Michael will merge
15:13:34 [john]
ACTION: michael to merge #199
15:14:02 [john]
#202 - Unicode version. Need to review changes
15:14:33 [john]
To be reviewed next meeting
15:14:46 [john]
rrsagent, make minutes
15:14:48 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/19-ixml-minutes.html john
15:15:30 [john]
#236 - version number changes.
15:16:08 [john]
Norm: grammars without versions assume 1.0 - consensus to permit 'use any you like'
15:16:46 [john]
Michael: suggestion 'It is implementation-defined what version shall be used.'
15:17:10 [john]
Steven: what objection to using the latest version?
15:17:22 [john]
Michael: implemntation-defined
15:17:50 [john]
s/implemnation/implementation/
15:18:15 [john]
Michael: what about the 'stable'/quality version?
15:19:02 [john]
present: john, steven, michael, norm, bethan, jimS
15:20:00 [john]
rrsagent, make minutes
15:20:02 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/19-ixml-minutes.html john
15:21:04 [john]
Agreed: move to implementation-defined rather than default 1.0. Implementations can configure.
15:22:19 [john]
ACTION: Norm to draft a PR to define response in the spec. e.g. unrecognised, different options for choice of which version to be used.
15:24:42 [john]
JimS: Has the format of the version string been altered? Rather is the prolog defined finally.
15:24:55 [john]
Norm: a 1.0 must support a prolog
15:25:40 [cmsmcq]
s/a 1.0 must/a conforming 1.0 implementation must/
15:26:06 [john]
Reminder - the version is a QuotedString
15:29:17 [john]
rrsagent, make minutes
15:29:19 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/19-ixml-minutes.html john
15:30:43 [john]
Subtopic: #192 Normalizing line endings in input
15:31:26 [john]
See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ixml/2023Oct/0021.html
15:32:33 [john]
Steven: an implementation might not know where the input comes from.
15:33:03 [john]
Norm: We should do the same as XML in input normalisation - CR/LF -> LF
15:36:06 [john]
Michael: Say nothing, or declare that implementations may permit (user-option) suspension of such normalization
15:38:36 [john]
norm: Worth making the deployment of iXML grammars more robust across platforms
15:45:49 [john]
Lots of discussion about the possibilities, and possible benefits and costs to user
15:49:40 [john]
Action: Norm to draft a section of the spec. to cover this time.
15:50:04 [john]
s/time/topic/
15:50:30 [john]
Topic: AOB
15:50:53 [john]
Next Meeting: 2nd April
15:51:11 [john]
rrsagent, make minutes
15:51:12 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/19-ixml-minutes.html john