IRC log of adapt on 2024-03-12

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Meeting: Exploring making site navigation more accessible, with "well-known destinations"

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Chair: Matthew Atkinson

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Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2024/issues/10

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Zakim, clear agenda

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agenda cleared

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Zakim, agenda+ Pick a scribe

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https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2024/issues/10 -> Issue 10 Exploring making site navigation more accessible, with "well-known destinations" (by matatk) [session]

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Zakim, agenda+ Reminders: code of conduct, health policies, recorded session policy

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Zakim, agenda+ Goal of this session

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Zakim, agenda+ Discussion

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Zakim, agenda+ Next steps / where discussion continues

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tidoust has changed the topic to: Breakout: Exploring making site navigation more accessible, with "well-known destinations" - Lyre - 14:00-15:00 UTC

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zakim, who is here?

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Present: (no one)

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On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, matatk_, dmontalvo, Roy, Zakim, tidoust, RRSAgent, gb, imlostlmao, AnthonySpencer, justinestrada, sdd, Github, Mike5Matrix, gonzu_15

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agenda?

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scribe: Lionel_Wolberger

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zakim, next item

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agendum 1 -- Pick a scribe -- taken up [from tpac-breakout-bot]

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Lionel_Wolberger: Scribe is picked

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 1 closed

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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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2. Reminders: code of conduct, health policies, recorded session policy [from tpac-breakout-bot]

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present+

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zakim, next item

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agendum 2 -- Reminders: code of conduct, health policies, recorded session policy -- taken up [from tpac-breakout-bot]

14:04:18 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Lionel_Wolberger: Code of conduct, https://www.w3.org/policies/code-of-conduct/

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Lionel_Wolberger: Anti-trust, https://www.w3.org/policies/antitrust-2024/

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 2 closed

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I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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3. Goal of this session [from tpac-breakout-bot]

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zakim, next item

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agendum 3 -- Goal of this session -- taken up [from tpac-breakout-bot]

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matatk_: Recording permission requested and granted

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Lionel_Wolberger: Introduced the speakers and the topic

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Slides for our session: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/adapt/main/presentations/breakouts-day-2024/

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matatk_: Sharing screen, what is this all about.

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matatk_: Presented the slides.

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matatk_: Paused the recording to show the demo

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matatk_: In a sample ecommerce site, an extension queries the website and asks, which well known destinations do you support?

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... a dropdown list appears displaying which WKDs are supported on this site

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... now changing to a different sample site

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... this one is an informational site, with pages regarding a particular topic

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... in the dropdown list fewer WKDs are shown on this site

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... showing that the WKD is dynamic, portable, and can differ depending on site

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... resumed recording

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Abhinav: Presented the following slides, starting with "build on existing infrastructure"

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matatk_: Presenting the last slides, starting with 'Next Steps'

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matatk_: Last slide, recording stopped for discussion

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q?

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https://github.com/w3c/adapt

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14:35:56 [dmontalvo]

q+ to ask for localization in an internationalization context

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Lionel_Wolberger: Note the spec supports human access to these well known destinations, by browsing to the well-known URL

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janina: We could also support graying out functionality that is not germane to the functionality of the well-known destination

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Daniel: How will this specification be localized to other languages? Will the folder path and term 'well-known' be translated to other languages?

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matatk_: These are defined strings, that can be rendered in the localized language

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... or even not in language, but in symbols

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... once the infrastructure is in place, any terminology can be applied in the UI

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q?

14:46:06 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Daniel: Indeed. A screen reader would read it in audio as well

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ack dm

14:46:18 [Zakim]

dmontalvo, you wanted to ask for localization in an internationalization context

14:46:38 [Lionel_Wolberger]

Lionel_Wolberger: The latin letters defined by the IANA spec, /well-known/ia, would need to be added to a site, regardless of the language of the site

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matatk_: I can add to the demo a non-english language website to illustrate this

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... and the explainer should make this clear

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... perhaps using the word 'token' to refer to these strings required by WKD, to ensure people understand they are not there for their semantic meaning

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ack dmontalvo

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/12-adapt-minutes.html matatk_

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zakim, end meeting

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As of this point the attendees have been janina

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RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/12-adapt-minutes.html Zakim

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I am happy to have been of service, matatk_; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye

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rrsagent, bye

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