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20:04:17 <steele> present+ MikeJones,TonyNadalin,NickSteele,NinaSatragno,MatthewMiller,JohnPascoe,TimCappalli,PLH,EmilLundberg,DavidTurner,JohnSchanck.JamesZhang,RolfLindemann,ShaneWeeden,DavidTurner
20:04:40 <steele> Chair: TonyNadalin
20:04:43 <steele> Scribe: steele
20:04:54 <steele> TOPIC: Face to Face
20:05:31 <steele> AGL: We have a venue, it's near the Internet History Museum (the venue for IIW) on April 19th
20:05:42 <steele> ... On the Google campus
20:06:12 <steele> MikeJones: OpenID is also meeting that morning on the Google campus, presents a conflict for John and I in the morning
20:06:34 <steele> present+ GarrettDavidson,JohnBradley,AndersAberg
20:06:50 <steele> AGL: All the details provided should be in an email sent to the list
20:07:18 <simone> present+ Simone
20:08:23 <simone> q+
20:09:27 <steele> TOPIC: Charter
20:11:22 <steele> Simone: Proposes an addendum to the pending charter that includes a formality section regarding security topics (risks, threat modeling, etc). This should be in the template provided.
20:11:53 <steele> Simone: The security topics such as the threat model is already included in the specification, so we could reuse that
20:12:15 <steele> Tony can work with Simone to reformat the draft to include this
20:13:24 <steele> TOPIC: Pull Requests
20:14:29 <steele> https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/issues/2022
20:14:40 <steele> Discussion with Rolf
20:16:24 <steele> There are financial regulatory and fraud concerns that compel this work
20:17:34 <steele> Discussion of different solutions that could exist to solve this issue
20:29:52 <simone> scribe+
20:30:13 <simone> John: important to have another browser than chrome to support it
20:31:07 <simone> Rolf: from a regulatory perspective, the authenticator needs to display it, not the platform
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20:34:41 <elundberg> scribenick: elundberg
20:37:28 <elundberg> elundberg: there would be value in keeping the name if it can be backwards compatible with existing authenticator implementations
20:38:16 <elundberg> MatthewMiller: we should change the name, txAuthSimple isn't very descriptive
20:38:22 <elundberg> TimCappalli: or accurate, necessarily
20:39:13 <elundberg> elundberg: short extension ID is preferable because it's reflected in CBOR on the wire, some message size limits are as low as ~1KB
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20:39:31 <elundberg> TimCappalli: there should be a "type" attribute or similar at least
20:40:22 <elundberg> nadalin: hearing mixed feelings about this proposal
20:41:02 <elundberg> jbradley: how much do we want to expand the scope
20:41:24 <elundberg> TimCappalli: we should hear from banks that they understand this will be inconsistent between platforms
20:41:40 <elundberg> ...I suspect they will deem it not useful due to inconsistency
20:45:14 <elundberg> RolfLindemann: I've heard a need for this capability for many use cases
20:46:22 <elundberg> nadalin: adjourn
20:46:46 <elundberg> Zakim, list participants
20:46:46 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been MikeJones, TonyNadalin, NickSteele, NinaSatragno, MatthewMiller, JohnPascoe, TimCappalli, PLH, EmilLundberg, DavidTurner,
20:46:49 <Zakim> ... JohnSchanck.JamesZhang, RolfLindemann, ShaneWeeden, GarrettDavidson, JohnBradley, AndersAberg, Simone
20:47:01 <elundberg> RRSAgent, make logs public
20:47:10 <elundberg> RRSagent, generate minutes
20:47:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/06-webauthn-minutes.html elundberg
20:47:18 <elundberg> RRSAgent, generate minutes
20:47:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/06-webauthn-minutes.html elundberg
20:47:25 <elundberg> Zakim, bye
20:47:25 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been MikeJones, TonyNadalin, NickSteele, NinaSatragno, MatthewMiller, JohnPascoe, TimCappalli, PLH, EmilLundberg, DavidTurner,
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20:47:27 <Zakim> ... JohnSchanck.JamesZhang, RolfLindemann, ShaneWeeden, GarrettDavidson, JohnBradley, AndersAberg, Simone
20:47:33 <elundberg> RRSAgent, bye
20:47:33 <RRSAgent> I see no action items