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19:27:12 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
19:27:43 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
19:27:43 <janina> Meeting: Accessibility at the Edge Teleconference
19:27:43 <janina> Date: 06 mar 2024
19:27:43 <janina> chair: Janina
19:27:46 <janina> agenda+Welcome & Intros (as needed)
19:28:10 <janina> agenda+Continued Capabilities Discussion
19:28:18 <janina> agenda+Actions & Next Steps
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19:29:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, who is here?
19:29:52 <Zakim> Present: (no one)
19:29:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, dmontalvo
19:30:05 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
19:30:59 <janina> present+
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19:36:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
19:36:31 <Bev_C> Bev is here
19:36:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Bev
19:37:40 <janina> present+
19:38:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Time zone changes coming up, USA and the Americas will be one hour earlier than EU/EMEA for a few weeks
19:38:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next iterm
19:38:14 <Zakim> I don't understand 'next iterm', Lionel_Wolberger
19:38:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
19:38:17 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Welcome & Intros (as needed) -- taken up [from janina]
19:38:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, clise this item
19:38:27 <Zakim> I don't understand 'clise this item', Lionel_Wolberger
19:38:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, close this item
19:38:30 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
19:38:31 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
19:38:31 <Zakim> 2. Continued Capabilities Discussion [from janina]
19:38:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
19:38:36 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Continued Capabilities Discussion -- taken up [from janina]
19:38:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> regrets: Shari
19:40:34 <Bev_C> Janina presented at World Information Architecture Day New York 2024 (WIAD NY 24) on A11y Edge and related W3C A11y Standards
19:42:01 <Bev_C> WIAD attendees were from W3C A11y Edge, and Information Architecture Community Group (IACG) and the World Information Architecture Association (WIAA) and about 12 other organizations including Universities
19:44:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: The Community Group has a good, exhaustive list of all possible accessibility edge remediation capabilities
19:45:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: This report card can allow checking off which capabilities are in a particular technology
19:47:37 <Lionel_Wolberger> Bev_C: Is this personas, classes and types of users?
19:47:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: No, it's an itemization of functionality or capability
19:48:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+ Jason
19:49:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: The types of items that you may want to control / remediate
19:49:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... you may want to control preferences, remediate a keyboard trap
19:50:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... there are things you need to do -- make it semantic, useable, operable, understandable, more or less conform with WCAG
19:50:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... there are things you want to do , for users to self-service themselves, personalize
19:50:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the first document is pretty good in its list of these things
19:50:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the second document, could be a report
19:51:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the CG can also give guiedance on what should be done, not only what can be done
19:51:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> s/guiedance/guidance
19:51:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> Bev_C: The idea of relying parties could be helpful. Or remediating parties.
19:52:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... +1 to Jason's pointing out: 'Need to's and might want to do's'
19:53:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
19:53:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/06-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
19:55:32 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Note, I added 'automatability'
19:55:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: There's an entire lifecycle regarding automation: (a) detect it (b) remediate it (c) verify the remediation
20:07:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We are not limited to remediations
20:08:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: In 'presentation' is a lot of 'what you can do', above and beyond 'what you have to do'
20:08:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: WCAG-aligned capabilities would be, the things you 'have to do'
20:11:58 <Bev_C> Text Services (Semantics + Semiotics)
20:15:00 <janina> ~
20:23:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: After much discussion, we now want our H1s to be:
20:23:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... 1- Content , 2- Presentation, 3- Functionality, 4- Management
20:24:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... 1- Content (mostly the Words/Content, Moderating?) Text Services (Semantics/Semiotics) (the content marked up by HTML) 	Static and Dynamic
20:24:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... 2- Presentation (mostly CSS)
20:24:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... 3- Functionality (mostly JS)
20:24:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... 4- Management (mostly Administrative, management, work flows) 	Analytics, Governance
20:25:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We are comfortable with a second document that is a report card template referencing the explanatory report
20:25:27 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... by mneans of which a service provider of edge services can declare what they might offer
20:25:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> Bev_C: I'm hearing that remediation is an injection into any level / layer of the system, is that what y'all are thinking?
20:25:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Explanatory report card template, a service provider can declare what they offer
20:30:01 <Bev_C> Exit
20:30:30 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
20:30:30 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Lionel_Wolberger, janina, Bev, Jason
20:30:32 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:30:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/06-a11yedge-minutes.html Zakim
20:30:39 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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