IRC log of adapt on 2024-03-05
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/03/05-adapt-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger
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- meeting: Weeklt Teleconference
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- \s\Weeklt\Weekly
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- agenda+ Introduction, Any Updates?
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- agenda+ Virtual TPAC slide review
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- agenda+ Github actions and PRs
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- agenda+ Issue 240 Way Forward
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- agenda+ Symbol vocab
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- agenda+ Symbols explainer
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- present+
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/05-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
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- regrets: Janina, Russel
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- present+
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- present+
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- agenda?
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- scribe+
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- zakim, who is here?
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- Present: Lionel_Wolberger, Abhinav, Leandro_, matatk
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- On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger_, Leandro_, matatk, Abhinav, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lionel_Wolberger, Roy, gb, imlostlmao, AnthonySpencer, justinestrada, sdd, Github, Mike5Matrix, gonzu_15
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- scribe+
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- Introduction, Any Updates? -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
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- matatk: Many W3C people are at CSUN, Kevin of WAI is organizing a get together
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- ... if you want to be notified, ping Matt and he will pass on your info
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Virtual TPAC slide review -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
- 15:11:01 [matatk]
- PR with slides: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/264
- 15:11:07 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/264 -> Pull Request 264 Add Breakouts Day 2024 presentation (by matatk)
- 15:11:09 [matatk]
- Slides preview: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/adapt/breakouts-day-2024-slides/presentations/breakouts-day-2024/index.html
- 15:11:49 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- matatk: The official name is, W3C Breakouts Day 2024
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- ... it will be open to everyone
- 15:13:00 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- ... Using the last year TPAC template, will update when/if we get a new one
- 15:16:18 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- q?
- 15:17:20 [matatk]
- Lionel_Wolberger_: I would like to see an example of the destinations being used, and why we're using them (show at least some of the URLs)
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- Lionel_Wolberger_: We need a slide showing a well known destination at work, e.g., www.mysite.com/ia/accessibility
- 15:18:18 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- Leandro_: Agree. Slides 12-15 need to say more about our proposal
- 15:18:52 [matatk]
- Leandro_: The key phrase 'well-known destinations' needs to be explained more prominently.
- 15:19:24 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- matatk: The browser extension demo is not represented here and it says a lot
- 15:20:54 [matatk]
- matatk: Agree on prominence of the key phrase - maybe introduce it on slide 10
- 15:25:52 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- matatk: Showed the demo again
- 15:26:57 [matatk]
- Lionel_Wolberger_: suggests a couple of slides - one listing common destinations today; another listing problems people encounter (update of existing slide)
- 15:27:59 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- Lionel_Wolberger_: Make a slide saying, TITLE Website Common Destinations, the bullets: •Home •Accessibility statement •Contact •Help •Login
- 15:28:23 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- ... and another, People Struggle To Find These, bullets: •Themes and Variations •Visual complexity •Synonyms (e.g., login, signin) •Foreign language
- 15:29:34 [matatk]
- Lionel_Wolberger_: Important to say the words (i.e. IANA) rather than just giving a link in the body text of the slide.
- 15:34:39 [matatk]
- Lionel_Wolberger_: 6 & 7 should be combined, for a shorter explanation of where we're coming from
- 15:35:17 [matatk]
- Lionel_Wolberger_: I think we should give Abhinav a slide to present, and that he'd speak well to building on existing infrastructure (current slide 14).
- 15:35:34 [matatk]
- Abhinav: I think slide 6 is important as it sets the perspective (synonyms can be important).
- 15:35:50 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- Abhinav: Slide 6 seems important as it shows how synonyms can cause struggle
- 15:38:42 [matatk]
- matatk: explained the Content Usable -> machine adaptations speech we make at this point.
- 15:39:09 [matatk]
- Leandro_: I think collapsing 5 and 6 would address the problem of showing what we're doing, and not repeating stuff.
- 15:39:30 [matatk]
- Leandro_: Demo is good; the site needs to be more complex, as matatk indicated.
- 15:39:53 [matatk]
- Leandro_: We recently found the same situation, where the classic 'save' icon was not understood by participants in a seminar.
- 15:40:18 [Lionel_Wolberger_]
- Leandro_: (It is a study of user behavior by people with disabilities)
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- q?
- 15:46:25 [matatk]
- Lionel_Wolberger_: Is 'a more adaptive web' appropriate for this presentation? It's not a critical word to what we do. It used to be Personalization, then we got Adapt, which is perfect. Recommending using vocab we use in our standard.
- 15:55:39 [matatk]
- Lionel_Wolberger_: need the URLs for links
- 15:56:58 [matatk]
- Lionel_Wolberger_: We need a bullet on requesting a namesmpace (not just a particular URL)
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been Lionel_Wolberger, Abhinav, Leandro_, matatk
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/05-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger_; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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