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14:54:24 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger
14:54:41 <Lionel_Wolberger> meeting: Weeklt Teleconference
14:55:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> \s\Weeklt\Weekly
14:55:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Introduction, Any Updates?
14:55:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Virtual TPAC slide review
14:55:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Github actions and PRs
14:55:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Issue 240 Way Forward
14:55:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Symbol vocab
14:55:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Symbols explainer
14:55:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
14:55:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:55:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/05-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:57:32 <Lionel_Wolberger> regrets: Janina, Russel
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15:05:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
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15:06:54 <Lionel_Wolberger_> scribe+
15:07:00 <matatk> present+
15:07:18 <Lionel_Wolberger_> zakim, who is here?
15:07:18 <Zakim> Present: Lionel_Wolberger, Abhinav, Leandro_, matatk
15:07:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger_, Leandro_, matatk, Abhinav, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lionel_Wolberger, Roy, gb, imlostlmao, AnthonySpencer, justinestrada, sdd, Github, Mike5Matrix, gonzu_15
15:07:39 <matatk> scribe+
15:07:40 <Lionel_Wolberger_> zakim, next item
15:07:40 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Introduction, Any Updates? -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
15:08:55 <Lionel_Wolberger_> matatk: Many W3C people are at CSUN, Kevin of WAI is organizing a get together
15:09:06 <Lionel_Wolberger_> ... if you want to be notified, ping Matt and he will pass on your info
15:10:48 <Lionel_Wolberger_> zakim, next item
15:10:48 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Virtual TPAC slide review -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
15:11:01 <matatk> PR with slides: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/264
15:11:07 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/pull/264 -> Pull Request 264 Add Breakouts Day 2024 presentation (by matatk)
15:11:09 <matatk> Slides preview: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/adapt/breakouts-day-2024-slides/presentations/breakouts-day-2024/index.html
15:11:49 <Lionel_Wolberger_> matatk: The official name is, W3C Breakouts Day 2024
15:11:54 <Lionel_Wolberger_> ... it will be open to everyone
15:13:00 <Lionel_Wolberger_> ... Using the last year TPAC template, will update when/if we get a new one
15:16:18 <Lionel_Wolberger_> q?
15:17:20 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger_: I would like to see an example of the destinations being used, and why we're using them (show at least some of the URLs)
15:17:41 <Lionel_Wolberger_> Lionel_Wolberger_: We need a slide showing a well known destination at work, e.g., www.mysite.com/ia/accessibility
15:18:18 <Lionel_Wolberger_> Leandro_: Agree. Slides 12-15 need to say more about our proposal
15:18:52 <matatk> Leandro_: The key phrase 'well-known destinations' needs to be explained more prominently.
15:19:24 <Lionel_Wolberger_> matatk: The browser extension demo is not represented here and it says a lot
15:20:54 <matatk> matatk: Agree on prominence of the key phrase - maybe introduce it on slide 10
15:25:52 <Lionel_Wolberger_> matatk: Showed the demo again
15:26:57 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger_: suggests a couple of slides - one listing common destinations today; another listing problems people encounter (update of existing slide)
15:27:59 <Lionel_Wolberger_> Lionel_Wolberger_: Make a slide saying, TITLE Website Common Destinations, the bullets:  •	Home •	Accessibility statement •	Contact •	Help •	Login
15:28:23 <Lionel_Wolberger_> ... and another, People Struggle To Find These, bullets: •	Themes and Variations •	Visual complexity •	Synonyms (e.g., login, signin) •	Foreign language
15:29:34 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger_: Important to say the words (i.e. IANA) rather than just giving a link in the body text of the slide.
15:34:39 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger_: 6 & 7 should be combined, for a shorter explanation of where we're coming from
15:35:17 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger_: I think we should give Abhinav a slide to present, and that he'd speak well to building on existing infrastructure (current slide 14).
15:35:34 <matatk> Abhinav: I think slide 6 is important as it sets the perspective (synonyms can be important).
15:35:50 <Lionel_Wolberger_> Abhinav: Slide 6 seems important as it shows how synonyms can cause struggle
15:38:42 <matatk> matatk: explained the Content Usable -> machine adaptations speech we make at this point.
15:39:09 <matatk> Leandro_: I think collapsing 5 and 6 would address the problem of showing what we're doing, and not repeating stuff.
15:39:30 <matatk> Leandro_: Demo is good; the site needs to be more complex, as matatk indicated.
15:39:53 <matatk> Leandro_: We recently found the same situation, where the classic 'save' icon was not understood by participants in a seminar.
15:40:18 <Lionel_Wolberger_> Leandro_: (It is a study of user behavior by people with disabilities)
15:40:35 <Lionel_Wolberger_> q?
15:46:25 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger_: Is 'a more adaptive web' appropriate for this presentation? It's not a critical word to what we do. It used to be Personalization, then we got Adapt, which is perfect. Recommending using vocab we use in our standard.
15:55:39 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger_: need the URLs for links
15:56:58 <matatk> Lionel_Wolberger_: We need a bullet on requesting a namesmpace (not just a particular URL)
16:05:43 <Lionel_Wolberger_> zakim, end meeting
16:05:43 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Lionel_Wolberger, Abhinav, Leandro_, matatk
16:05:45 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:05:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/03/05-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
16:05:54 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger_; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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