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14:57:16 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
14:57:17 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
14:57:26 <janina> Meeting: Adapt Task Force Teleconference
14:57:33 <janina> Date: 27 Feb 2024
14:57:36 <janina> Chair:  Lionel
14:57:36 <janina> agenda+ Introduction, updates.
14:57:36 <janina> agenda+ Upcoming presentations: Virtual TPAC, AC Lightning Talk
14:57:36 <janina> agenda+ Symbols: Issue 240 Way Forward
14:57:38 <janina> agenda+ Symbols: vocabulary
14:57:41 <janina> agenda+ Well Known Destination: Github actions and PRs
14:57:43 <janina> agenda+ Recruiting
15:00:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger has joined #Adapt
15:00:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
15:01:01 <Russell> Russell has joined #adapt
15:01:05 <Russell> present+
15:01:09 <janina>  zakim, who's here?
15:01:09 <Zakim> Present: Russell
15:01:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see Russell, Lionel_Wolberger, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, Roy_, gb, imlostlmao, AnthonySpencer, justinestrada, sdd, Github, Mike5Matrix, gonzu_15
15:01:20 <janina> present+
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15:03:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
15:03:41 <Abhinav> present+
15:03:42 <janina> scribe+
15:04:10 <janina> regrets: Matthew
15:04:42 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
15:04:43 <janina> zakim, next item
15:04:43 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Introduction, updates. -- taken up [from janina]
15:05:05 <janina> zakim, close this item
15:05:05 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
15:05:06 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:05:06 <Zakim> 2. Upcoming presentations: Virtual TPAC, AC Lightning Talk [from janina]
15:05:08 <janina> zakim, next item
15:05:08 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Upcoming presentations: Virtual TPAC, AC Lightning Talk -- taken up [from janina]
15:05:47 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Reviews status ...
15:06:21 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Checks session calendar -- WKD is listed
15:06:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> URL for the TPAC Virtual, https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2024/issues/10
15:06:44 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2024/issues/10 -> Issue 10 Exploring making site navigation more accessible, with "well-known destinations" (by matatk) [session]
15:06:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Exploring making site navigation more accessible, with "well-known destinations"
15:07:12 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Note to check slides next mtg
15:07:22 <janina> Abhinav: Notes his offer to co-present
15:08:50 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Also a Lightning talk at AC
15:09:35 <janina> janina: Explains Lightning talks
15:09:47 <Abhinav> https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2024/issues/11
15:09:48 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/breakouts-day-2024/issues/11 -> Issue 11 Nu Tracker: Helping you manage actions and horizontal review tasks from the command line (by matatk) [session]
15:10:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Matt has proposed lightning talk at the AC meeting in Japan. We wait for an update from Matt.
15:10:35 <janina> zakim, next item
15:10:35 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Symbols: Issue 240 Way Forward -- taken up [from janina]
15:11:54 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2021/Process-20211102/
15:12:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the above link, explaining AC and how W3C works.
15:13:01 <janina> Russell: Notes mtg with Matt and reviewed candidate response editing as needed
15:13:20 <janina> Russell: Have not received edited copy yet
15:13:45 <janina> Russell: Intent is to post to list for last reviews  before posting on github
15:13:52 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Matt wrote, "we are really happy with the draft we have. Before we can post it, Russell is going to check to be sure we can use a couple of the proposed Bliss Unicode code points."
15:14:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
15:14:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/27-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
15:14:11 <janina> Russell: Notes several "likes" on issue recently
15:14:29 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... for the record, the issue https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240
15:14:30 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 -> Issue 240 Could we build symbolic annotations with existing Web standards? (by DuncanMacWeb) [i18n-tracker]
15:14:39 <janina> Russell: Suggests thread still monitored; we just need to bring this to conclusion
15:15:21 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: So where to we go from there?
15:17:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... registry spec, https://www.w3.org/TR/aac-registry/
15:17:21 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... symbols module, https://www.w3.org/TR/adapt-symbols
15:19:33 <janina> topic: Implementation Opportunities
15:21:02 <janina> [discussion of issue participants who's who]
15:27:54 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Suggests emoji markup to show translation across cultural contexts
15:30:08 <janina> Janina discovers the Emojipedia: https://emojipedia.org/
15:31:06 <janina> Russell: Notes this is unicode symbols by combining emoji; will be left as a unicode recommendation
15:31:40 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Summarizes ...
15:31:51 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Suggests YouTube
15:33:37 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Notes Global Symbols
15:36:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Dividing implementation into authoring, e.g. marked up content, and rendering
15:36:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we have many ideas for both
15:36:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... To be expanded on in future meetings
15:37:17 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Reopens question of using the term "symbol" -- because it confuses people
15:37:25 <Russell> q+
15:37:29 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: AAC not known by the public; emoji may not be helpful
15:38:31 <janina> Russell: Yes, also discussed internally
15:38:51 <janina> Russell: Symbol not perfect, but well known in the aac world
15:39:22 <janina> Russell: ubiquitously used in the aac world; a well known term of art; industry standard
15:42:41 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Notes this spec potential to impact areas that do not have overlapping terminology
15:42:57 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Original example was icon, favicon, pictograph, etc
15:43:20 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: They're all target audience, especially icon
15:43:42 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: addresses semantics, not just symbols
15:44:01 <janina> Russell: all icons are symbols; but not all symbols are icons
15:44:31 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Even related terms like avatar, badge
15:44:32 <janina> Russell: think of icons as a concise symbol
15:45:52 <janina> zakim, next item
15:45:52 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, janina
15:45:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We are returning to the world of hyroglyphics, this has an ancient history
15:45:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> q?
15:46:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> ack Russell
15:46:04 <janina> ack ru
15:46:05 <janina> zakim, next item
15:46:05 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Symbols: vocabulary -- taken up [from janina]
15:46:23 <janina> zakim, close this item
15:46:23 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
15:46:24 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:46:24 <Zakim> 5. Well Known Destination: Github actions and PRs [from janina]
15:46:25 <janina> zakim, next item
15:46:26 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- Well Known Destination: Github actions and PRs -- taken up [from janina]
15:47:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We are waiting for Matt to get to the FPWD
15:50:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: The name space we will ask for is /ia
15:51:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... /.well-known/ia/accessibility
15:51:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: The W3C will make the decision on the slash prefix
15:51:57 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we met with Web Security back in Seville regarding this
15:52:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... they encouraged us not to put everything under /a11y
15:54:55 <Abhinav> https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/well-known-uris.xhtml
15:56:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: The current WK URIs for which W3C is change-controller, are:
15:56:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... change-password, csvm, dnt, genid, tdmrep.json, void, wot
15:57:34 <Abhinav> https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-discovery/#introduction-well-known
15:58:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: There is also did-, and did.json registered by CG and WG and not by W3C
15:59:43 <Lionel_Wolberger> Abhinav: As of now, IANA does not seem to support name-spaces.
16:00:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: The IANA page lists Mark Nottingham as the expert contact
16:00:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We should go through the W3C TAG via the official IANA/W3C liaison.
16:01:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, bye
16:01:48 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Russell, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, Abhinav
16:01:48 <Zakim> Zakim has left #adapt
16:03:16 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
16:03:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/27-adapt-minutes.html janina
16:07:09 <janina> rrsagent, bye
16:07:09 <RRSAgent> I see no action items