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17:00:38 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Chuck
17:01:13 <Chuck> chair:  Chuck
17:01:19 <Chuck> meeting:  AG-FACILITATORS-2024-02-05
17:01:28 <Chuck> rrsagent, generate minutes
17:01:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/05-ag-facilitators-minutes.html Chuck
17:01:47 <Chuck> agenda+ Announcements
17:01:54 <Chuck> agenda+ Standing update
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17:31:21 <kevin> Scribe: kevin
17:31:22 <shawn> present+
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17:31:35 <Chuck> zakim, take up item 1
17:31:35 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Announcements -- taken up [from Chuck]
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17:31:38 <jj> present+
17:31:40 <kevin> present+
17:32:04 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
17:32:04 <Zakim> Present: Chuck, jjdg, maryjom, kevin, lisa, shawn, jj
17:32:04 <Wilco> present+
17:32:06 <kevin> Chuck: In conference last week. Not had opportunity for any big announcements today
17:32:17 <kevin> ... Any other announcements?
17:34:13 <kevin> present+ Kosi
17:35:31 <shawn> Present: Chuck, Shawn, Kievin, jj, Lisa, Wilco, MaryJo, Kosi
17:35:50 <shawn> Present: Chuck, Shawn, Kevin, jj, Lisa, Wilco, MaryJo, Kosi
17:36:33 <Wilco> https://www.deque.com/careers/senior-accessibility-tool-developer/
17:36:36 <Chuck> zakim, take up item 2
17:36:36 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Standing update -- taken up [from Chuck]
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17:37:26 <kevin> shawn: Not much but need to follow up with Wilco on pending publications. LV TF still on the quiet
17:37:35 <maryjom> present+
17:37:51 <kevin> lisa: Nothing to add from me
17:38:18 <kevin> jj: Meeting last week with new participants
17:38:20 <Chuck> q+
17:38:43 <kevin> ... No meeting this week... waiting for IE applications to be approved
17:38:50 <kevin> ... Need access to Github
17:38:52 <Chuck> ack Ch
17:39:12 <shawn> q+ to note call for participation
17:39:17 <kevin> Chuck: You previously said you were light on participants. Sounds likes there is good participation
17:39:25 <kevin> ... Anything more we can do?
17:39:50 <kevin> jj: We have 8 people in the TF with another 5-10 people made an IE application (I have been told)
17:39:59 <kevin> ... Having 5+ people each week would be a success
17:40:05 <Chuck> q?
17:40:08 <Chuck> ack shawn
17:40:08 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to note call for participation
17:40:17 <kevin> shawn: We can do a call for participation if warranted
17:40:35 <kevin> ... Need to get the updated work statement more available to assist with that
17:40:54 <kevin> maryjom: Still working on on creating content for next public draft
17:41:09 <kevin> ... Was targeting March but likely to be delayed
17:41:17 <shawn> q+ to note WCAG2ICT nad applying WCAG2.2 to mobile synergies
17:41:18 <kevin> ... Trying to nail down language on things
17:41:21 <Chuck> q?
17:42:01 <Chuck> ack shawn
17:42:01 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to note WCAG2ICT nad applying WCAG2.2 to mobile synergies
17:42:01 <kevin> ... Delay is maybe month, maybe two
17:42:08 <kevin> shawn: ForJJ and MaryJo to keep in mind; there is overlap between WCAG2ICT and WCAG2 mobile materials.
17:42:19 <kevin> ... Would be good to keep aware of how these overlap and fit together
17:42:36 <kevin> jj: Definitely be good to see how we can get inspired
17:42:51 <Chuck> q+
17:43:34 <Wilco> q+
17:43:34 <kevin> ... We are specifically thinking about how it applies to Andriod/iOS... possibly with specific guidance
17:43:34 <Chuck> ack Ch
17:43:40 <kevin> Chuck: Sounds like there are specific technical approaches
17:44:02 <kevin> ... Biggest ask from WCAG2ICT to Mobile would be to make sure there is no conflicting guidance
17:44:07 <Chuck> ack Wilco
17:44:31 <kevin> Wilco: Wanted to make sure we touched on Work Statements today
17:44:40 <shawn> present+ Alastair, MikeGower
17:45:15 <kevin> lisa: To Shawns point, we did make a supplement to WCAG2.0 covering including cognitive disabilities
17:45:23 <Chuck> agenda+ Work Statements
17:45:49 <kevin> ... Decision to what extent this would need to be included in other publications such as Mobile and WCAG2ICT
17:46:08 <kevin> https://www.w3.org/TR/coga-usable
17:46:41 <kevin> mgower: WCAG2X TF regular meetings. Looking at about 12 changes every two weeks
17:46:51 <kevin> https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG2/supplemental/
17:47:05 <kevin> ... These are being flagged to AG regularly. Looks like it is going smoothly
17:47:41 <kevin> ... We are struggling to keep up with the number of issues being opened though
17:47:53 <kevin> alastairc: Nothing to add
17:48:21 <kevin> Wilco: ACT has feedback from AGWG on Rules Format 1.1
17:48:43 <kevin> ... CFC planned soon for draft of FPWD
17:48:59 <kevin> ... We think that this might be the definitive version
17:49:05 <kevin> ... We might be done!!!
17:49:05 <Chuck> q+
17:49:20 <Chuck> ack Ch
17:49:46 <kevin> ... Working on update to Work Statement as well
17:50:11 <kevin> ... Just to mention that WCAG2 TF merge something that contradicted ACT rules.
17:50:16 <kevin> ... Need to work out how to avoid that
17:51:03 <kevin> ... ACT rules said to use colour value from pixels, Understanding says to use CSS value. Bit of an edge case but good to avoid inconsistencies
17:51:03 <Chuck> q+
17:51:29 <kevin> alastairc: Will need to look at this in non-text contrast as well
17:51:42 <kevin> Wilco: Will be good to think how we avoid this happening in general
17:52:08 <kevin> alastairc: If there is anything that has a Technique attached to it we could add an ACT label and flag this specifically?
17:52:11 <Chuck> ack Wilco
17:52:13 <kevin> Wilco: Might work
17:52:55 <kevin> ... As long as someone on ACT TF has check and agreed no problems that might work
17:53:17 <alastairc> Anything which includes an ACT label then gets CCed to ACT, or a person in ACT?
17:53:40 <kevin> mgower: We could have our own process in the Backlog group to check for anything that might be relevant
17:53:54 <Chuck> zakim, take up next item
17:53:54 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Chuck
17:53:58 <kevin> ... Keen to avoid flagging everything with ACT which wouldn't necessaily help
17:53:58 <Chuck> q?
17:53:59 <Chuck> ack Ch
17:54:03 <Chuck> zakim, take up next item
17:54:03 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Announcements -- taken up [from Chuck]
17:54:07 <Chuck> zakim, take up item 3
17:54:07 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Work Statements -- taken up [from Chuck]
17:54:25 <kevin> Chuck: Have been asking for updated Work Statements
17:54:39 <kevin> ... Would be good to do so by mid-February
17:55:31 <jj> q+
17:55:31 <alastairc> q+
17:55:31 <Chuck> ack jj
17:55:31 <kevin> ... Where do we stand?
17:55:31 <kevin> jj: Important for Mobile TF to shift focus
17:55:37 <kevin> ... Shared info with Kevin and Roy
17:55:46 <kevin> ... Hope to review next Monday
17:55:48 <Chuck> ack ala
17:55:54 <Wilco> Won't cue, I already mentioned it. Ours is drafted, only a few small changes needed. We should have it ready soon
17:55:58 <kevin> alastairc: WCAG2X TF we need to produce on
17:56:18 <kevin> Chuck: WCAG2ICT statement should be sufficient
17:56:47 <kevin> lisa: I think COGA is ok. We have increased the scope to include mental health
17:56:59 <Wilco> q+
17:57:04 <Chuck> ack Wilco
17:57:35 <kevin> Wilco: Might be a couple of weeks to sort out the ACT work statement following some meetings with the community
17:58:05 <jj> q+
17:58:15 <kevin> Topic: AOB
17:58:21 <Chuck> ack jj
17:59:01 <kevin> jj: Is there any information on TPAC? Is everyone from here going to be going?
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17:59:23 <kevin> https://www.w3.org/events/tpac/2024/
18:00:13 <kevin> s/mgower/mbgower/g
18:00:31 <kevin> mbgower: Proposed modules came up in 3.0
18:00:37 <Chuck> q+
18:00:45 <kevin> ... Might be worth having someone to champion that work?
18:00:50 <Chuck> ack Ch
18:01:11 <kevin> ... Just flagging for thought
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