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17:19:58 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
17:20:11 <janina> meeting: Accessibility at the Edge Community Group Teleconference
17:20:20 <janina> date: 05 Feb 2024
17:20:23 <janina> Chair: Janina
18:02:07 <janina> present+ Jason
18:04:27 <janina> scribe+
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18:04:47 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
18:04:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda?
18:05:15 <janina> zakim, take up item 2
18:05:15 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Continued Capabilities Reorganization Discussion (Figjam) -- taken up [from janina]
18:05:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
18:05:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We did the manual work of compying out the FigmaJam stickies, and translating them into markdown text
18:06:06 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: We did the manual work to copy the Figjam stickies and create a TOC from them
18:06:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... we preserved as best as possible the semantic heading order that was strongly implied by the visual grouping
18:08:50 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Perhaps I can render locally and screen share so we can discuss ...
18:12:48 <janina> [we're walking through our TOC and tweaking]
18:15:40 <janina> janina: Perhaps 'accessible interactivity?'
18:17:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: In looking at interaction, there is a difference between content and apps
18:17:24 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Automation tends to focus on the aspects of the content
18:17:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... accessibility automation modifies these types of semantics
18:18:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... On the other hand, accessibility automation rarely modifies the interactions themselves, which might be coded in React, Angular, etc
18:24:29 <janina> jason: Suggests two H1's -- Content & Presentation; Accessible Interaction
18:58:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: It is a classic computer science architecture that application and presentation are distinguished.
18:59:13 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We started wrangling with headers: they need representing as a top level.
19:00:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
19:00:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/05-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
19:00:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: ... are they presentation? Or are the functional?
19:01:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... They resemble links
19:01:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> Jason: Disagree. They are not like links as they are not interactive in that way
19:01:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I meant, screen readers offer navigation by headers, links, buttons...
19:01:50 <Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We are out of time, let's pick this up next time.
19:01:53 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
19:01:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/02/05-a11yedge-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
19:06:18 <janina> zakim, bye
19:06:18 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been janina, Lionel, Jason, Lionel_Wolberger
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19:06:27 <janina> rrsagent, by
19:06:27 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'by', janina.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
19:06:33 <janina> rrsagent, bye
19:06:33 <RRSAgent> I see no action items