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17:31:32 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
17:31:33 <Zakim> Meeting: WAI Coordination Call Teleconference
17:31:36 <janina> present+
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17:31:46 <kevin> agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/30f78cbd-3619-47d9-8734-fa064210a49f/20240129T123000/
17:31:47 <agendabot> kevin, sorry, I did not recognize any agenda in https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/30f78cbd-3619-47d9-8734-fa064210a49f/20240129T123000/
17:32:06 <kevin> agenda+ Group updates
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17:32:14 <kevin> agenda+ Infoshare
17:32:22 <kevin> agenda+ WAI at CSUN
17:32:29 <kevin> agenda+ IE Onboarding process
17:32:44 <kevin> agenda+ WG/TF pages updates
17:32:55 <kevin> agenda+ AOB
17:32:57 <kevin> agenda?
17:33:15 <kevin> agenda drop item 6
17:33:23 <kevin> agenda?
17:33:31 <kevin> agenda close item 6
17:34:22 <janina> scribe+
17:34:24 <kevin> present+
17:34:35 <janina> zakim, take up item 1
17:34:35 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Introductions, new WAI staff ! Kosi -- taken up [from shawn]
17:34:38 <spectranaut_> present+ valerie_young
17:34:51 <kevin> zakim, take up item 8
17:34:51 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Group updates -- taken up [from kevin]
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17:35:28 <janina> kevin: Quiick updates, please ...
17:35:33 <janina> Lisa: New schedule
17:35:52 <janina> present+ lisa
17:36:00 <matatk> present+
17:36:06 <janina> lisa: Focussed on research
17:36:21 <janina> lisa: mental health
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17:36:52 <lisa__> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBu9OhGoMG4lLDBRaRFZZxGoNWW-aDkKkVKrypfPvVc/edit#heading=h.ykqwx9vsxdya
17:37:00 <janina> matatk: Nothing pressing
17:37:01 <lisa__> coga time line
17:37:08 <janina> s/ing/ing for APA/
17:37:23 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: APA's Adapt tackling symbols and well known destinations
17:37:34 <janina> Lionel_Wolberger: Need a Co-Facilitator ...
17:37:56 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
17:38:02 <janina> Valerie: Published fpwd of ARIA 1.3
17:38:44 <kevin> zakim, take up item 9
17:38:44 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Infoshare -- taken up [from kevin]
17:38:59 <janina> kevin: Anything to report?
17:39:39 <janina> lisa: Notes Step A mtg coming in Norway
17:40:40 <kevin> zakim, take up item 10
17:40:40 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- WAI at CSUN -- taken up [from kevin]
17:40:59 <lisa__>  https://www.a-step-action.eu/
17:41:23 <janina> matatk: Some of APA will be attending, though likely not enough to do actual work
17:41:34 <janina> matatk: Interest in observing what will be going
17:41:36 <lisa__> this is the github i put up for them https://github.com/a-STEP-action/a-STEP
17:41:52 <janina> kevin: AG not meeting -- Chairs not going
17:42:10 <janina> kevin: I have responsibility for organizing social event, dinner, etc
17:42:23 <janina> kevin: A slack a11y channel ...
17:42:40 <kevin> #csunatc in the a11y Slack instance
17:42:58 <janina> kevin: Carl Groves doing some organizing
17:43:40 <janina> matatk: No APA mtgs ...
17:43:51 <janina> kevin: Lots of AG people, but unclear whether a mtg
17:44:06 <janina> matatk: unsure whether slack uri should be public?
17:44:25 <kevin> zakim, take up item 11
17:44:25 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- IE Onboarding process -- taken up [from kevin]
17:44:27 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
17:44:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/01/29-WAICC-minutes.html janina
17:45:04 <janina> matatk: We've noted problems adding IE to APA recently -- we've had a few joins and hit several issues
17:45:16 <janina> matatk: Still unclear exactly what
17:45:30 <janina> matatk: People forward application which can take awhile
17:45:46 <janina> matatk: They get an email back but seem to miss they've one more step to do
17:46:11 <janina> matatk: When we reach out, they may actually do that step
17:46:34 <janina> matatk: That's the main problem, note that it's been several folks
17:46:48 <janina> matatk: Suggest: "Action Required: on email Subject
17:47:32 <janina> matatk: Phps also prepare applications that the form isn't the end, there will be additional steps when they're approved
17:47:44 <janina> kevin: Say more
17:48:05 <janina> matatk: We don't see the application process, but suggestion is to emphasis that submitting the application
17:48:10 <janina> . still requires time
17:48:26 <janina> . When successful they need to understand there's still another step from them
17:48:39 <janina> . Submitting isn't everything
17:48:55 <janina> kevin: So making the steps clearer is the need?
17:49:09 <janina> kevin: That would help?
17:49:14 <janina> matatk: yes
17:49:29 <lisa__> Q+
17:49:37 <janina> matatk: They get "Congrats email, but miss they need to actually join
17:49:37 <kevin> ack lisa__
17:50:11 <janina> lisa__: Could I have the steps? I don't think I know them all.
17:50:42 <janina> kevin: Will follow up; phps making it clearer on the application will take care of it
17:51:06 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
17:51:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/01/29-WAICC-minutes.html janina
17:51:15 <kevin> zakim, take up item 12
17:51:15 <Zakim> agendum 12 -- WG/TF pages updates -- taken up [from kevin]
17:52:07 <janina> matatk: People following the joining process have noted out of date instructions ...
17:52:18 <janina> matatk: lots of outdated info; hard to keep up
17:52:26 <lisa__> Q-
17:52:48 <janina> matatk: Things like call times; WG participants is info that's duplicated
17:53:13 <janina> matatk: wg and tf pages should have current work pointers
17:53:23 <janina> matatk: the remainder should rely on W3C Groups
17:53:40 <janina> matatk: An explicit link for what to do to join should be in Groups
17:53:59 <janina> . The step to ask Staff Contact to join a TF
17:54:11 <janina> . New people don't realize TF inside a WG
17:54:21 <janina> kevin: Have been looking at how we manage pages
17:54:27 <janina> kevin: It's team, and not many of us
17:54:37 <janina> kevin: Would like to move into github
17:54:56 <janina> kevin: to enable chairs and facilitators to keep things updated
17:55:15 <janina> kevin: Also to avoid duplication between w3.org and w3.org/wai
17:55:42 <janina> kevin: good info to potential participants something we need to improve
17:56:17 <janina> kevin: Can't yet commit to timeline
17:56:36 <kevin> scribe+ kevin
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17:56:55 <kevin> lisa: What we say about the time commitment isn't always completely honest
17:57:20 <kevin> ... Some people may not join because they can't give four hours a week
17:57:47 <kevin> ... But if someone does weekly meeting plus large bit of work each month then that could be good participation
18:00:09 <lisa__> present+
18:01:00 <kevin> kevin: It might be that we can better present what good participation looks like but we have to recognise that being accepted as an Invited Expert does come with an expectation of participation.
18:01:09 <kevin> rrsagent, make minutes
18:01:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/01/29-WAICC-minutes.html kevin