IRC log of adapt on 2024-01-16

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger

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meeting: Adapt Task Force Weekly Teleconference

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date: 16 January 2024

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agenda+ Introduction, Any Updates?

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agenda+ Issue 240 Way Forward

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agenda+ Symbol vocab, Is the word 'symbol' sufficient: adapt-symbol?

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agenda+ Symbol vocab, For combining symbols, Composition or Concatenation

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agenda+ URL Project Vocabulary: Well Known Destination?

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agenda+ Issues raised in the Well Known Destination/URL Git

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agenda?

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agenda?

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agenda?

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present+

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scribe+

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Present+

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present+

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https://github.com/w3c/adapt/discussions/253

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present+

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zakim, next item

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agendum 1 -- Introduction, Any Updates? -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

15:08:21 [matatk]

zakim, who's here?

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Present: janina, Abhinav, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk

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On IRC I see matatk, Abhinav, janina, Roy, Lionel_Wolberger, gb, RRSAgent, Zakim, AnthonySpencer, Github, imlostlmao, Mike5Matrix, gonzu_15, justinestrada, sdd

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scribe+

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matatk: I will have regrets for next week, conflict with TAG

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Lionel_Wolberger: Any news on recruitment?

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janina: We have a new member that is interested in Adapt

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RESOLUTION: TF will not meet in teleconference 24 January

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zakim, take up item 5

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agendum 5 -- URL Project Vocabulary: Well Known Destination? -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

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present+

15:19:55 [matatk]

Most of the things we're discussing in this section of the meeting come from https://github.com/w3c/adapt/discussions

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agenda?

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/01/16-adapt-minutes.html matatk

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matatk: Suggests deferring naming for a bit ...

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matatk: What we call it could take lots of time

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janina: Agree we can p-ostpone, but we should take care that our discussions use terms precisely

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s/p-ostpone/postpone decision on vocabulary/

15:29:09 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: While we may not need an overall label for the work stream, se need to be very precise when we refer to associated specs

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matatk: agrees and clarifies

15:29:22 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... well known URI shall refer to that spec, rel to that spec, etc

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DRAFT RESOLUTION: We'll use "Well Known Destinations" provisionally as our class category

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RESOLUTION: We'll use "Well Known Destinations" provisionally as our class category

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+1

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zakim, take up item 6

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agendum 6 -- Issues raised in the Well Known Destination/URL Git -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

15:35:20 [janina]

zakim, who's here?

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Present: janina, Abhinav, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, Leandro

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On IRC I see Leandro, matatk, janina, Roy, Lionel_Wolberger, gb, RRSAgent, Zakim, AnthonySpencer, Github, imlostlmao, Mike5Matrix, gonzu_15, justinestrada, sdd

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matatk: Notes when we build on WKU we have requirements greater than what WKU supports, specifically a subsection of a page isn't supported in WKU

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matatk: Abinar also asked how does a UA know what WKDs are supported

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matatk: The well known root will return json (or similar) of well known destinations

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present+ Abhinav

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AnthonySpAbhinav: Asks how pages pointed to from a main corporate site would publish their sets of WKDs

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matatk: Understand question is subsite without an individual subdomain

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matatk: As we're currently conceiving, we'd need a subdomain

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matatk: Notes this would track with password change illustrates this

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matatk: Suggestsexamining current page would expose also if less efficient

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Lionel_Wolberger: Are we over-reaching with this problem?

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matatk: Notes the history is that SaP's proposal came to us as we were looking at creating WKDs in our parallel work process

15:49:51 [Lionel_Wolberger]

... trying to solve for many well known destinations, when we have not yet even established one?

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matatk: Understand better why site map is raised in this context

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Abhinav: Believe we could extend site map to provide machine readable destinations

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matatk: Agrees some WKDs are machine to machine, as is password change, but we are initially concerned for end user support in WKDs

15:55:08 [Lionel_Wolberger]

janina: We do not only focus on machine to machine here in Adapt; we are focused on usability for humans

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Abhinav: zakim, take up item 2

15:58:01 [Lionel_Wolberger]

zakim, take up agenda item 2

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'item\ 2' does not match any agenda item, Lionel_Wolberger

15:58:15 [Lionel_Wolberger]

https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240

15:58:16 [gb]

https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 -> Issue 240 Could we build symbolic annotations with existing Web standards? (by DuncanMacWeb) [i18n-tracker]

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zakim, take up item 2

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agendum 2 -- Issue 240 Way Forward -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]

15:58:25 [matatk]

Proposal: "Directing issue 240 towards resolution": https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-adapt/2024Jan/0002.html

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Issue 240: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/01/16-adapt-minutes.html matatk

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zakim, bye

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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been janina, Abhinav, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, Leandro

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