IRC log of matf on 2024-01-08
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- 20:02:46 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2024/01/08-matf-irc
- 20:02:50 [Zakim]
- RRSAgent, make logs Public
- 20:02:51 [Zakim]
- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), jjdg
- 20:02:51 [Mick]
- Mick has joined #MATF
- 20:02:58 [jjdg]
- present+
- 20:03:03 [Mick]
- present+
- 20:03:30 [jjdg]
- TOPIC: New facilitator
- 20:07:37 [jjdg]
- Jan Jaap de Groot is the new Task Force facilitator since 4th of January, 2024.
- 20:08:07 [jjdg]
- TOPIC: New direction
- 20:09:27 [jjdg]
- Focusing on installable apps on Android and iOS, e.g. any app which is an .apk / .ipa, thus; web apps are not included.
- 20:10:17 [jjdg]
- Responsive design is already covered in the Accessibility Guidelines Working Group. The Mobile Accessibility Task Force focuses on mobile apps.
- 20:11:06 [jjdg]
- Goal for 2024: publish Working Group Note for applying WCAG 2.2 to Mobile Apps
- 20:11:59 [jjdg]
- Covers all success criteria, including triple A, and not just the new WCAG 2.2 ones.
- 20:12:49 [jjdg]
- Subgoals: WCAG-EM for mobile apps, e.g. how to carry out an accessibility audit for a mobile app. Apps do not have URL's like websites, therefore some changes are needed to be able to follow WCAG-EM 1:1.
- 20:14:06 [jjdg]
- Aspirational goal: Techniques for mobile apps, ways to meet Success Criteria, including code samples for multiple frameworks/programming languages.
- 20:16:26 [jjdg]
- Archival goal: update relevant resources, deprecate outdated resources and ones that are no longer relevant
- 20:17:26 [jjdg]
- Testing goal: contribute to existing ACT Rules, add new ones for mobile apps
- 20:19:43 [jjdg]
- Collaboration goal: collaborate more often with COGA (The Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force) and APA Accessible Platform Architectures (APA) Working Group
- 20:20:51 [jjdg]
- Features goal: publish document listing available accessibility features on Android and iOS
- 20:31:16 [jjdg]
- Community goal: creating a place for the mobile accessibility community to come together
- 20:31:25 [jjdg]
- TOPIC: Timing change
- 20:32:20 [jjdg]
- Mick: prefers working hours, in GMT+0 timezone, evening also works
- 20:32:37 [jjdg]
- JJ: prefers working hours, in GMT+1 timezone, evening also works
- 20:33:58 [jjdg]
- Options: 7 PM GMT+0 would work for both JJ + Mick
- 20:34:41 [jjdg]
- Mick: Monday works nicely to kick-off the week, Wednesday/Friday don't work
- 20:35:03 [jjdg]
- JJ: Monday works well, other days are also ok, prefer earlier days in the week
- 20:35:12 [jjdg]
- TOPIC: WCAG 2.2 mapping
- 20:35:41 [jjdg]
- Review existing resources, wait for new partcipants before moving forward.
- 20:35:56 [jjdg]
- Considering using Markdown / Github to create the new Working Group Note
- 20:36:05 [jjdg]
- Work together async using Slack
- 20:36:24 [jjdg]
- TOPIC: New Task Force members
- 20:37:06 [jjdg]
- JJ: Lots of interested people in LinkedIn, hope to get 5+ people in the MATF as invited experts; have ±15 people in mind to reach out to.
- 20:37:24 [jjdg]
- JJ: Also try to get people interested to contribute outside of the MATF in the community
- 20:38:29 [jjdg]
- How can we make our resources beginner friendly?
- 20:39:14 [jjdg]
- Compare existing notes and figure out which ones are good examples.
- 20:39:52 [jjdg]
- COGA uses icons in their Note: https://www.w3.org/TR/coga-usable/
- 20:40:54 [jjdg]
- Getting started document: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Getting_started
- 20:41:08 [jjdg]
- Ten tips guidance: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/%E2%80%9Cten_tips%E2%80%9D
- 20:42:08 [jjdg]
- Publish official note, and publish unofficial guidance on W3 Wiki / Appt.org?
- 20:45:23 [jjdg]
- TOPIC: Moving forward
- 20:45:37 [jjdg]
- Make samples in Markdown
- 20:45:50 [jjdg]
- Figure out how to collaborate efficiently
- 20:46:11 [jjdg]
- Reach out to potential MATF participants, try to plan meetings in January
- 20:46:33 [jjdg]
- Work out 1 Success Criteria to show how it could look like in the Note
- 20:46:55 [jjdg]
- E.g. do we map to mobile apps as a whole, or map to Android / iOS seperately
- 20:47:40 [jjdg]
- Figure out if we can collaborate with Google for Android and Apple for iOS
- 20:48:02 [jjdg]
- Check how we link to their existing resources, e.g. Material Design Guidelines / Core App Quality / Human Interface Guidelines
- 20:50:00 [jjdg]
- General guidance for all mobile operating systems, add exclusions for Android / iOS where applicable?
- 20:50:36 [jjdg]
- Guidance is mostly different on the techniques, e.g. how to achieve it, what should be achieved is the same; such as adding a label to images.
- 20:54:34 [jjdg]
- zakim, list participants
- 20:54:34 [Zakim]
- As of this point the attendees have been jjdg, Mick
- 20:54:41 [jjdg]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 20:54:43 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2024/01/08-matf-minutes.html jjdg
- 20:55:22 [jjdg]
- rrsagent, bye
- 20:55:22 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items