IRC log of miniapp on 2023-11-23

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), xiaoqian
11:51:33 [martin]
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meeting: MiniApps WG & CG Monthly TeleConf
11:51:36 [xiaoqian]
chair: martin
11:51:39 [xiaoqian]
scribe: xiaoqian
11:51:54 [xiaoqian]
agenda?
11:52:30 [xiaoqian]
agenda+ Practical info
11:52:39 [xiaoqian]
agenda+ MiniApp WG Re-charter
11:52:48 [xiaoqian]
agenda+ Lifecycle - (open issues)
11:52:55 [xiaoqian]
agenda+ Manifest
11:53:05 [xiaoqian]
agenda+ Packaging - security improvements
11:53:11 [xiaoqian]
agenda+ Addressing
11:53:18 [xiaoqian]
agenda+ Widget
11:53:25 [xiaoqian]
agenda+ Community Group updates in the charter
11:53:29 [xiaoqian]
agenda+ AOB
12:01:34 [xiaoqian]
present+ xiaoqian, martin, DanZhou
12:04:55 [xiaoqian]
zakim, take up next item
12:04:55 [Zakim]
agendum 1 -- Practical info -- taken up [from xiaoqian]
12:05:53 [xiaoqian]
martin: news, Zitao moved to another department, so I'll take over his role
12:06:41 [xiaoqian]
... we are expecting more support soon
12:10:34 [xiaoqian]
zakim, close this item
12:10:34 [Zakim]
agendum 1 closed
12:10:35 [Zakim]
I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
12:10:35 [Zakim]
2. MiniApp WG Re-charter [from xiaoqian]
12:10:38 [xiaoqian]
zakim, take up next item
12:10:38 [Zakim]
agendum 2 -- MiniApp WG Re-charter -- taken up [from xiaoqian]
12:11:21 [xiaoqian]
the 2023 charter -> https://www.w3.org/2023/10/miniapps-wg-charter.html
12:12:05 [xiaoqian]
martin: the new charter is approved, some changes in the scope and deliverables
12:12:14 [xiaoqian]
xiaoqian: members need to rejoin
12:12:36 [xiaoqian]
Dan: sure, we will rejoin
12:12:57 [xiaoqian]
zakim, close this item
12:12:57 [Zakim]
agendum 2 closed
12:12:58 [Zakim]
I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
12:12:58 [Zakim]
3. Lifecycle - (open issues) [from xiaoqian]
12:13:03 [xiaoqian]
zakim, take up next item
12:13:03 [Zakim]
agendum 3 -- Lifecycle - (open issues) -- taken up [from xiaoqian]
12:13:14 [xiaoqian]
martin: regrets from AnQing
12:14:04 [xiaoqian]
... not much update
12:14:17 [xiaoqian]
xiaoqian: we are hiring a new Web Sec expert
12:14:42 [xiaoqian]
... perhaps it's worthy to wait for 1-2 month to get a proper review before moving to CR
12:15:02 [xiaoqian]
... QingAn already finished the Sec & Privacy questionaire
12:15:08 [xiaoqian]
zakim, close this item
12:15:08 [Zakim]
agendum 3 closed
12:15:09 [Zakim]
I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
12:15:09 [Zakim]
4. Manifest [from xiaoqian]
12:15:14 [xiaoqian]
zakim, take up next item
12:15:14 [Zakim]
agendum 4 -- Manifest -- taken up [from xiaoqian]
12:15:26 [xiaoqian]
martin: thank you for reviewing my pull request
12:15:48 [xiaoqian]
... another issue, suggested by tomayac
12:15:54 [xiaoqian]
... about Permission
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-> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/issues/57
12:17:18 [xiaoqian]
... to align "req_permissions"
12:17:36 [xiaoqian]
... I put here a proposal
12:17:57 [xiaoqian]
... in the current spec, we don't recommend another solution
12:18:16 [xiaoqian]
... in the new proposal, we can include some new terms
12:18:41 [xiaoqian]
... please let me know if you have comments after discussing with your colleagues
12:18:57 [xiaoqian]
DanZhou: is this a similar spec in W3C?
12:19:18 [xiaoqian]
martin: yes, this comes from a few WGs
12:19:33 [xiaoqian]
... f.ex, Geolocation API comes from the DAS WG
12:20:09 [xiaoqian]
DanZhou: is there any declaration in WebApps?
12:20:34 [xiaoqian]
martin: yes, it's under discussion, I attended a meeting during TPAC
12:20:44 [xiaoqian]
... about Isolation WebApps
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... not sure if there is any conclusion
12:21:38 [xiaoqian]
DanZhou: this is new to MiniApps, our current implementation is quite different
12:21:58 [xiaoqian]
... so quite a change
12:22:18 [xiaoqian]
martin: it's included in the existing document, it's optional
12:22:30 [xiaoqian]
... it's not a major concern
12:22:58 [xiaoqian]
DanZhou: I can see the pos and cons
12:23:22 [xiaoqian]
s/pos/pros
12:23:49 [xiaoqian]
... it worths further discussion
12:24:09 [xiaoqian]
martin: please open a new issue, I'd be glad to follow up
12:24:17 [xiaoqian]
zakim, close this item
12:24:17 [Zakim]
agendum 4 closed
12:24:18 [Zakim]
I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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5. Packaging - security improvements [from xiaoqian]
12:24:21 [xiaoqian]
zakim, take up next item
12:24:21 [Zakim]
agendum 5 -- Packaging - security improvements -- taken up [from xiaoqian]
12:24:53 [xiaoqian]
martin: I already shared with you the proposed solution for the TAG feedback
12:25:05 [xiaoqian]
... would like to continue the discussion with the TAG
12:25:15 [xiaoqian]
... they asked for more examples and use cases
12:25:34 [xiaoqian]
... this is something I tried to summary the situation
12:26:33 [xiaoqian]
... please comment on this issue, and let me know if there is anything else we should do
12:28:10 [xiaoqian]
DanZhou: I'll need more time to review the change
12:29:09 [xiaoqian]
xiaoqian: we can also call for comments in the Dev community
12:29:53 [xiaoqian]
martin: yes, please do, security is important for the MiniApps specs
12:30:10 [xiaoqian]
zakim, close this item
12:30:10 [Zakim]
agendum 5 closed
12:30:11 [Zakim]
I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
12:30:11 [Zakim]
6. Addressing [from xiaoqian]
12:30:15 [xiaoqian]
zakim, take up next item
12:30:15 [Zakim]
agendum 6 -- Addressing -- taken up [from xiaoqian]
12:30:33 [xiaoqian]
DanZhou: I saw you already approved the PR, so I merged it
12:30:53 [xiaoqian]
martin: great, only editorial comments
12:31:01 [xiaoqian]
DanZhou: thank you!
12:31:44 [xiaoqian]
... #9 can be closed already we merged the PR
12:32:00 [xiaoqian]
... same as #12
12:34:05 [xiaoqian]
action: xiaoqian to work with martin and Dan to move Addressing to FPWD
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zakim, close this item
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agendum 6 closed
12:35:09 [Zakim]
I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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7. Widget [from xiaoqian]
12:35:28 [xiaoqian]
zakim, next item
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agendum 7 -- Widget -- taken up [from xiaoqian]
12:35:51 [xiaoqian]
martin: I'll see if there is some similar proposals internally
12:35:58 [xiaoqian]
zakim, close this item
12:35:58 [Zakim]
agendum 7 closed
12:35:59 [Zakim]
I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
12:35:59 [Zakim]
8. Community Group updates in the charter [from xiaoqian]
12:36:05 [xiaoqian]
zakim, next item
12:36:05 [Zakim]
agendum 8 -- Community Group updates in the charter -- taken up [from xiaoqian]
12:36:26 [xiaoqian]
martin: xfq suggested we update the CG charter with the WG charter
12:36:51 [xiaoqian]
... I've a pull request to include some minor changes
12:37:20 [xiaoqian]
... the most important change is to include the components and the IOT proposals
12:38:10 [xiaoqian]
... please check the diffs
12:40:51 [xiaoqian]
zakim, close this item
12:40:51 [Zakim]
agendum 8 closed
12:40:52 [Zakim]
I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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9. AOB [from xiaoqian]
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zakim, take up next item
12:41:01 [Zakim]
agendum 9 -- AOB -- taken up [from xiaoqian]
12:42:30 [xiaoqian]
next meeting, 14 Dec, chair will be DanZhou
12:43:28 [xiaoqian]
[adjourned]
12:43:35 [xiaoqian]
RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/11/23-miniapp-minutes.html xiaoqian