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10:59:04 <xfq> Meeting: Chinese Layout Task Force Teleconference
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11:02:00 <xfq> present+ Bobby, Eric
11:03:05 <xfq> present+ Zhengyu, huijing, Eiso
11:18:06 <xfq> Topic: Generic font family
11:18:44 <xfq> Bobby: Taiwan and Hong Kong and Macao also use Fangsong
11:19:11 <xfq> ... But macOS only has a SC Fangsong font
11:20:13 <xfq> Eric: It's a chicken and egg problem, Taiwan/HK/Macao government don't require Fangsong, so the operating systems don't provide TC Fangsong
11:22:48 <xfq> Bobby: the browsers need to implement this quickly
11:22:53 <xfq> Eric: agreed
11:24:37 <xfq> Zhengyu: We can't expect browser vendors to know all the major Fangsong fonts
11:25:15 <xfq> ... Safari supports ui-monospace, but Chrome does not
11:25:53 <xfq> s/implement this quickly/implement Kai and Fangsong quickly
11:28:19 <xfq> Zhengyu: Programmers want ui-monospace badly
11:28:29 <xfq> s/Programmers/developers
11:32:12 <xfq> [Discuss the system fonts in Apple operating systems]
11:35:14 <xfq> Zhengyu: Until the browser supports it, we can encourage developers to use Webfonts first
11:35:29 <xfq> s/browser supports/browsers support
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