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13:38:12 <Sharon> zakim, start meeting
13:38:12 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
13:38:13 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Sharon
13:38:33 <Sharon> meeting: APA WAI-Adapt Task Force Meeting 30 October 2023
13:38:40 <Sharon> agenda?
13:38:53 <Sharon> chair: Sharon
13:39:55 <Sharon> agenda+ General updates
13:46:33 <Sharon> agenda+ Issue 240 discussion (Unicode / Registry)
13:46:43 <Sharon> agenda+ well-known URI for accessibility proposal/discuss. include in Gap analysis (Lionel)
13:46:52 <Sharon> agenda+ A11y4Children follow-ups
13:47:01 <Sharon> agenda+ Recruiting
13:47:13 <Sharon> agenda+ User Agents and Symbols Implementations
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13:57:06 <janina> agenda?
13:57:30 <janina> present+
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14:04:13 <janina> scribe+
14:04:34 <Abhinav> present+
14:04:34 <janina> zakim, next item
14:04:34 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- General updates -- taken up [from Sharon]
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14:05:09 <russell> present+
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14:05:43 <janina> janina: Need to get proposed edits to Explainer in.
14:06:07 <janina> sharon: Lionel was to massage html of one-pager for inclusion; Roy will publish
14:06:47 <Vikas> present+
14:06:53 <janina> janina: Presenting to A11y NYC on December 5
14:06:58 <janina> zakim, next item
14:06:58 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Issue 240 discussion (Unicode / Registry) -- taken up [from Sharon]
14:07:11 <Sharon> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240
14:07:11 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 -> Issue 240 Could we build symbolic annotations with existing Web standards? (by DuncanMacWeb) [i18n-tracker]
14:07:49 <janina> sharon: Notes lots of discussion up to around two weeks ago
14:08:28 <janina> russell: Still think using unicode as key in our db is still not the best approach
14:08:38 <janina> russell: potential problems not that great, though
14:09:10 <janina> russell: Many good reasons to use it in the long term
14:10:01 <janina> russell: can really see both sides--could rationalize using unicode, too
14:10:36 <janina> russell: it would be a mistake, but we could arguably live with it
14:11:10 <janina> russell: notes new id created for new symbol, but old one retained
14:12:11 <janina> russell: old spelling could be repurposed--though it's infrequent
14:13:09 <janina> russell: being in unicode does make the symbols more widely available
14:13:58 <janina> russell: id is the symbol, but if you don't have an equivalent, you're stuck
14:19:11 <janina> janina: agree for display; but we also need authoring support and for that we need a concept index
14:20:38 <janina> russell: notes concepts not available in a base lang, say English
14:21:37 <janina> russell: hundreds of words in bliss vocab intersection
14:23:36 <janina> russell: notes bliss not conceived as chars; though reparsed to support unicode now using a sequence of bliss chars
14:24:05 <janina> russell: a lengthy process to get new symbols accepted into unicode
14:24:53 <janina> russell: more like CJK
14:26:12 <janina> russell: we will include unicode spelling in the registry; but doesn't replace existing ids
14:27:56 <janina> russell: will respond on github and explain further
14:28:07 <janina> russell: hopes Lionel can help with visuals of explanation
14:31:15 <janina> zakim, next item
14:31:15 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- well-known URI for accessibility proposal/discuss. include in Gap analysis (Lionel) -- taken up [from Sharon]
14:34:44 <janina> janina: not immediately finding our meeting on this with Web Security ...
14:35:16 <janina> janina: They're very supportive, and they let us understand that quite a few of our proposed URIs are generally useful whether or not disability is involved
14:35:43 <janina> janina: We want to work with them moveing our proposed spec to FPWD; and Matthew's return will be of help on that
14:36:56 <janina> Abhinav: See about half a dozen proposed by W3C
14:37:29 <Sharon> https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/well-known-uris.xhtml
14:38:22 <janina> sharon: This is also where our gap analysis matters
14:39:50 <janina> zakim,next item
14:39:50 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- A11y4Children follow-ups -- taken up [from Sharon]
14:42:31 <janina> sharon: OK to end early, I'l advise lionel for next week
14:42:35 <janina> zakim, end meeting
14:42:35 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been janina, Abhinav, russell, Vikas
14:42:37 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:42:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/30-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
14:42:45 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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16:44:17 <janina> rrsagent, bye
16:44:17 <RRSAgent> I see no action items