IRC log of adapt on 2023-10-30
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- logging to https://www.w3.org/2023/10/30-adapt-irc
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- zakim, start meeting
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Sharon
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- meeting: APA WAI-Adapt Task Force Meeting 30 October 2023
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- agenda?
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- chair: Sharon
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- agenda+ General updates
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- agenda+ Issue 240 discussion (Unicode / Registry)
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- agenda+ well-known URI for accessibility proposal/discuss. include in Gap analysis (Lionel)
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- agenda+ A11y4Children follow-ups
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- agenda+ Recruiting
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- agenda+ User Agents and Symbols Implementations
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- 13:56:53 [janina]
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- agenda?
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- present+
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- scribe+
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- present+
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 1 -- General updates -- taken up [from Sharon]
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- present+
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- 14:05:43 [janina]
- janina: Need to get proposed edits to Explainer in.
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- sharon: Lionel was to massage html of one-pager for inclusion; Roy will publish
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- present+
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- janina: Presenting to A11y NYC on December 5
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2 -- Issue 240 discussion (Unicode / Registry) -- taken up [from Sharon]
- 14:07:11 [Sharon]
- https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240
- 14:07:11 [gb]
- https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/240 -> Issue 240 Could we build symbolic annotations with existing Web standards? (by DuncanMacWeb) [i18n-tracker]
- 14:07:49 [janina]
- sharon: Notes lots of discussion up to around two weeks ago
- 14:08:28 [janina]
- russell: Still think using unicode as key in our db is still not the best approach
- 14:08:38 [janina]
- russell: potential problems not that great, though
- 14:09:10 [janina]
- russell: Many good reasons to use it in the long term
- 14:10:01 [janina]
- russell: can really see both sides--could rationalize using unicode, too
- 14:10:36 [janina]
- russell: it would be a mistake, but we could arguably live with it
- 14:11:10 [janina]
- russell: notes new id created for new symbol, but old one retained
- 14:12:11 [janina]
- russell: old spelling could be repurposed--though it's infrequent
- 14:13:09 [janina]
- russell: being in unicode does make the symbols more widely available
- 14:13:58 [janina]
- russell: id is the symbol, but if you don't have an equivalent, you're stuck
- 14:19:11 [janina]
- janina: agree for display; but we also need authoring support and for that we need a concept index
- 14:20:38 [janina]
- russell: notes concepts not available in a base lang, say English
- 14:21:37 [janina]
- russell: hundreds of words in bliss vocab intersection
- 14:23:36 [janina]
- russell: notes bliss not conceived as chars; though reparsed to support unicode now using a sequence of bliss chars
- 14:24:05 [janina]
- russell: a lengthy process to get new symbols accepted into unicode
- 14:24:53 [janina]
- russell: more like CJK
- 14:26:12 [janina]
- russell: we will include unicode spelling in the registry; but doesn't replace existing ids
- 14:27:56 [janina]
- russell: will respond on github and explain further
- 14:28:07 [janina]
- russell: hopes Lionel can help with visuals of explanation
- 14:31:15 [janina]
- zakim, next item
- 14:31:15 [Zakim]
- agendum 3 -- well-known URI for accessibility proposal/discuss. include in Gap analysis (Lionel) -- taken up [from Sharon]
- 14:34:44 [janina]
- janina: not immediately finding our meeting on this with Web Security ...
- 14:35:16 [janina]
- janina: They're very supportive, and they let us understand that quite a few of our proposed URIs are generally useful whether or not disability is involved
- 14:35:43 [janina]
- janina: We want to work with them moveing our proposed spec to FPWD; and Matthew's return will be of help on that
- 14:36:56 [janina]
- Abhinav: See about half a dozen proposed by W3C
- 14:37:29 [Sharon]
- https://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/well-known-uris.xhtml
- 14:38:22 [janina]
- sharon: This is also where our gap analysis matters
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- zakim,next item
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- agendum 4 -- A11y4Children follow-ups -- taken up [from Sharon]
- 14:42:31 [janina]
- sharon: OK to end early, I'l advise lionel for next week
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been janina, Abhinav, russell, Vikas
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/30-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, janina; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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- rrsagent, bye
- 16:44:17 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items