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14:31:53 <Zakim> Meeting: AGWG Teleconference
14:31:54 <Chuck> chair:  Chuck
14:31:54 <Chuck> meeting:  AGWG-2023-10-24
14:31:54 <Chuck> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:31:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/24-ag-minutes.html Chuck
14:32:02 <Chuck> agenda+ Announcements
14:32:13 <Chuck> agenda+ Ongoing subgroup work on (Mobile and pointer support, Consistent design, Nonvisual alternatives, Provide Help)
14:42:51 <Chuck> regrets: Justine Pascalides, Todd Libby
14:47:31 <Chuck> zakim, remove item 2
14:47:31 <Zakim> agendum 2, Ongoing subgroup work on (Mobile and pointer support, Consistent design, Nonvisual alternatives, Provide Help), dropped
14:47:36 <Rachael> regrets+ Bruce
14:48:55 <Chuck> agenda+ Ongoing subgroup work (Mobile and pointer support, Nonvisual alternatives, Provide Help)
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15:03:21 <wendyreid> Chuck: First off, is there anyone who would like to introduce themselves, or a new role?
15:03:39 <wendyreid> ... any topics people would like to add to our list?
15:03:41 <jaunita_george__> q+
15:03:45 <wendyreid> ... for future conversation
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15:03:52 <Chuck> ack Jau
15:04:01 <wendyreid> jaunita_george__: I don't have a new topic, but I wanted to talk about our last control semantics meeting
15:04:07 <wendyreid> ... see if anyone on the call has any research
15:04:10 <Bri> present+
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15:04:28 <wendyreid> ... we haven't had much luck finding research on cognitive user needs or trigger warnings
15:04:47 <wendyreid> Chuck: Asking if anyone has access to research or know of some research you can leverage?
15:05:07 <wendyreid> ... I have made note of it, and we'll discuss in the planning call, or if we can support
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15:05:22 <wendyreid> ... AOB?
15:05:22 <Chuck> zakim, take up item 1
15:05:22 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Announcements -- taken up [from Chuck]
15:05:39 <wendyreid> Chuck: The US and some parts of the world will be going through DST
15:05:46 <Patrick_H_Lauke> present+ Patrick_H_Lauke
15:06:02 <wendyreid> ... the world is not uniform on the clock switch, so there will be some discrepancy, please be advised
15:06:12 <Rachael> q+
15:06:31 <wendyreid> Rachael: I believe Europe switches on the 29th of Oct, EU switches earlier than the US
15:06:37 <wendyreid> Chuck: US out of sync then
15:06:40 <wendyreid> ... another announcement
15:06:40 <Rachael> q-
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15:07:00 <Chuck> q?
15:07:06 <wendyreid> ... aid navigation and control semantics sub-groups have started, if you're interested in participating reach out to the chairs
15:07:17 <Chuck> Poll:  November 21st participation?  Yes:   I can attend, No:  I will not attend, Don't know
15:07:17 <wendyreid> ... Poll regarding the nov 21 AGWG calll
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15:07:30 <maryjom> present+
15:07:50 <jaunita_george__> I have to hop off but thanks for checking on the research! :)
15:07:53 <wendyreid> ... it falls on the US thanksgiving holiday, wanted to determine if there was enough participation to warrant a call
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15:08:04 <ljoakley> present+
15:08:11 <maryjom> No
15:08:11 <Rachael> Straw Poll: Will you  attend on November 21st? (Yes , No, Unknown)
15:08:22 <Rachael> Yes
15:08:24 <Chuck> Yes
15:08:24 <Jennie_Delisi> Yes
15:08:25 <wendyreid> Yes
15:08:26 <Makoto> Yes
15:08:28 <Bri> Yes
15:08:30 <Francis_Storr> yes
15:08:34 <Poornima> Don't know
15:08:34 <tzviya> unknown
15:08:36 <wendyreid> whoops. No (forgot I am on vacation)
15:08:39 <Poornima> unknown
15:08:51 <laura> yes
15:08:59 <wendyreid> Chuck: We'll announce if we do the call
15:09:05 <ljoakley> yes
15:09:06 <dan_bjorge> yes
15:09:13 <wendyreid> ... final announcement is the charter transition
15:09:22 <wendyreid> ... we will move to the new charter after Oct 31
15:09:38 <wendyreid> ... the WG and TFs will automatically become empty, with the exception of COGA and APA
15:09:42 <wendyreid> ... no action to take right now
15:09:53 <wendyreid> ... everyone will receive an email asking for participation
15:10:15 <wendyreid> ... if you're part of a member org, you will need to reach out to your AC rep so they can approve and submit you to the group
15:10:26 <wendyreid> ... start the conversation sooner rather than later
15:10:32 <kirkwood> present+
15:10:34 <Jennie_Delisi> q+ to ask about COGA APA vs AG
15:10:39 <wendyreid> ... if you don't know your AC rep is, we can help
15:11:01 <Rachael> Members of COGA under APA will not be affected
15:11:08 <wendyreid> ... W3C has issued new guidelines on Invited Experts, so any IEs will need to reapply
15:11:17 <wendyreid> ... we'll consider and approve as necessary
15:11:25 <Chuck> q?
15:11:27 <Chuck> ack Jennie
15:11:27 <Zakim> Jennie_Delisi, you wanted to ask about COGA APA vs AG
15:11:49 <wendyreid> Jennie_Delisi: Rachael clarified, members of COGA under APA will not be affected, COGA members part of AG will be affected
15:12:09 <Chuck> q?
15:12:13 <wendyreid> Rachael: If you're in any of the TFs through AG, you'll be affected
15:12:21 <wendyreid> Chuck: Any questions about the transition?
15:12:21 <Jennie_Delisi> q+
15:12:26 <Chuck> ack Jennie
15:12:54 <Rachael> q+
15:12:56 <wendyreid> Jennie_Delisi: As a person who works for government, sent an email to the chairs, if we can get documents ahead of time to speed up the review of the agreements we need to sign
15:13:06 <Chuck> ack Rach
15:13:13 <wendyreid> Rachael: I think I added it to our agenda, I will paste in the IE application here for your review
15:13:19 <wendyreid> Chuck: Any other questions?
15:13:24 <Chuck> zakim, take up next item
15:13:24 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Ongoing subgroup work (Mobile and pointer support, Nonvisual alternatives, Provide Help) -- taken up [from Chuck]
15:13:33 <Rachael> I recommend starting here https://www.w3.org/invited-experts/agreement-2023/
15:14:28 <Jennie_Delisi> Thanks Rachael. They will mostly want to review the actual application. So once I have a copy of that, I will be able to forward to those who need to review.
15:14:43 <Chuck> Mobile and pointer support scratchpad:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y9ihiYAgLfR83Cu6phRuPTcBr3N9Kr_uFD9cGuxpsgc/edit#heading=h.txiccm4cn4nl
15:14:53 <Chuck> Nonvisual alternatives scratchpad:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1znxw1MZQrWV1pM9G7aQTRRzNkuM3APVdGcdv78WPiso/edit#heading=h.txiccm4cn4nl
15:15:04 <Chuck> Provide Help:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vRFmF6JmftMSXAH6vapz319WWX5phs1dSrPRlcEbgz8/edit#heading=h.spr6hfitvd9m
15:15:13 <dan_bjorge> present+
15:15:51 <Chuck> The room named "Flexible Views" is actually "Provide Help", and will be run by Jeanne
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