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13:57:33 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Lionel_Wolberger
13:58:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> Meeting: WAI Adapt Weekly Teleconference Monday October 23, 2023
13:59:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Welcome, general updates
13:59:03 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Symbol Module Implementations: One-pager in HTML
13:59:06 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Issue 240 discussion (Unicode / Registry)
13:59:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ well-known URI for accessibility proposal/discuss. include in Gap analysis (Lionel)
13:59:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ A11y4Children follow-ups
13:59:19 <Lionel_Wolberger> v
13:59:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ Recruiting
13:59:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> agenda+ User Agents and Symbols Implementations
14:00:14 <Lionel_Wolberger> Date: 23 October 2023
14:00:20 <Lionel_Wolberger> Chair: Lionel_Wolberger
14:00:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> present+
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14:05:27 <Abhinav> present+
14:07:26 <Sharon> present+
14:08:39 <Roy> present+
14:08:49 <Lionel_Wolberger> scribe+
14:08:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:08:54 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Welcome, general updates -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:11:00 <Roy> gb, help
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14:11:17 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel: Would like to review how we connect our IRC name to our GitHub name
14:12:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> gb, Lionel_Wolberger is lwolberg
14:12:18 <gb> Lionel_Wolberger, OK.
14:12:41 <Roy> action: Lionel_Wolberger to test gb
14:12:48 <trackbot> Sorry, but no Tracker is associated with this channel.
14:12:48 <gb> Created -> action #246 https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/246
14:12:48 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... The command I was looking for is 'gb, Lionel_Wolberger is lwolberg'
14:13:02 <Roy> trackbot, bye
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14:13:54 <Roy> Close action #246
14:13:54 <gb> https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/246 -> Action 246 test gb (on lwolberg) due 2023-10-30
14:14:31 <Roy> close #246
14:14:33 <gb> Closed -> action #246 https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/246
14:15:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:15:33 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Symbol Module Implementations: One-pager in HTML -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:18:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Thanks to Sharon for a great job rendering the handout in HTML
14:19:44 <Lionel_Wolberger> Roy: We can host this HTML in WAI Adapt's main branch on GitHub
14:22:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... I will load these into GitHub and supply three URLs:
14:22:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... (1), the side-by-side version as Sharon did it
14:23:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... (2) and (3), single versions; (2) being the Blissymbolics and (3) being the ARASAAC, each alone on a page
14:23:38 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Once we have these, we can decide where and how to edit the explainer to link to these files
14:24:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> action: Roy to Symbols Explainer Made Available as HTML Pages on GitHub
14:24:24 <gb> Created -> action #247 https://github.com/w3c/adapt/issues/247
14:24:55 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:24:55 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Issue 240 discussion (Unicode / Registry) -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:25:09 <Roy> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:25:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/23-adapt-minutes.html Roy
14:27:01 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: Russell did update us by email last week
14:27:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... He wrote, I have been responding on Github to issue 240...
14:28:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Russell plans to respond to the last comment, expects to complete by next week.
14:28:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, next item
14:28:36 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- well-known URI for accessibility proposal/discuss. include in Gap analysis (Lionel) -- taken up [from Lionel_Wolberger]
14:29:25 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: We understand we are waiting for Matt to settle his new credentials
14:29:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... but meanwhile we have a demo from Abhinav
14:30:32 <Lionel_Wolberger> Abhinav: (Shared screen with a short PPT with his speaking notes)
14:30:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Well-known URI for accessibility
14:31:00 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... What is Well-known URI? It is a URL prefix starting with /.well-known/
14:31:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... implemented to provide a well known and predictable location
14:31:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... one well-known used one is security.txt
14:31:36 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... it allows security researchers to disclose security vulnerabilities
14:32:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... it is implemented by many companies such as SAP, Google, Amazon
14:32:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... and is used to provide a well known URL for people to report security vulnerabilities
14:34:00 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... proposes /.wellknown/a11y.html to provide a consistent location
14:34:16 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... suggesting the .html suffix as this may be more compatible with screen readers
14:34:58 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... (shows a sample of a page, where a table has rows
14:35:15 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... Each row can supply a field with an example and description
14:35:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... (shows a sample page)
14:36:12 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... (demonstrates security.txt.
14:36:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... it lists contact URL, contact email, and other fields are added as the standard is extensible
14:37:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... (demonstrates a similar a11y.html page listing ACR, WCAG level, and links for accessibility help and a contact to get help
14:44:28 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: I am seeking to map this to agenda items that are specific to the WAI Adapt task force
14:44:40 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... and help looks like a great match
14:45:35 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: This aligns strongly as well with the new 3.2.6 Consistent Help (A) in WCAG 2.2
14:47:13 <Roy> https://www.w3.org/2023/07/apa-wg-charter
14:48:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... examining the Adapt Working Group Charter
14:48:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... WAI-Adapt: Help and Support Module
14:49:08 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... provide use cases and a vocabulary of terms that can be used to enhance alternative or supportive content that may be useful for people with disabilities.
14:51:46 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: I am excited by the standardization of defect reporting
14:51:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... the comparison with security that Abhinav made is very relevant
14:52:18 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... this has been a win-win with the security community
14:52:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... as incentives are aligned
14:52:39 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... both for the reporter, who can earn a bounty
14:52:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... and the company that receives the report, as they have a chance to patch and avoid an attack
14:53:10 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... I can imagine similar virtuous cycle on a11y issue reporting
14:53:22 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... assistive technologies could integrate with such a well-known URL
14:53:45 <Lionel_Wolberger> .. and submit some record of a problem when a user struggles to complete a task
14:55:23 <Lionel_Wolberger> Sharon: Having an easy and common way to get support would be great
14:55:51 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... it has nothing to do with disabilities: everyone has trouble finding support
14:56:11 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... finding a support person more easily is a real curb cut
14:56:34 <Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Note the difference between accepting an issue report, as opposed to making support available
14:57:09 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... which can have a potentially high cost particularly for high volume websites
14:57:59 <Lionel_Wolberger> rrsagent, make minutes
14:58:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/23-adapt-minutes.html Lionel_Wolberger
14:58:33 <Lionel_Wolberger> Abhinav: Happy to present the crux of the idea
14:58:54 <Lionel_Wolberger> ... it is very extensible and can likely support anything we decide on
14:59:04 <Lionel_Wolberger> zakim, end meeting
14:59:04 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Lionel_Wolberger, Abhinav, Sharon, Roy
14:59:06 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:59:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/23-adapt-minutes.html Zakim
14:59:13 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, Lionel_Wolberger; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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