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15:02:32 <Zakim> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
15:02:32 <nigel> Agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/issues/266
15:02:32 <nigel> Previous meeting: https://www.w3.org/2023/09/28-tt-minutes.html
15:02:32 <nigel> scribe: ngiel
15:02:32 <nigel> scribe: nigel
15:02:34 <nigel> scribe- ngiel
15:03:25 <nigel> Present: Andreas, Matt, Nigel
15:03:29 <nigel> Regrets: Gary
15:03:46 <nigel> Regrets+ Cyril
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15:04:20 <nigel> Topic: This Meeting
15:04:40 <nigel> Nigel: Given the regrets, and who can make it today, I think we'll be mainly talking
15:04:54 <nigel> .. about DAPT pull requests where there's been some discussion
15:05:17 <nigel> .. I don't think there's anything to discuss re IMSC-HRM right now
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15:05:35 <nigel> .. Any other business, or points to make sure we cover?
15:05:45 <nigel> Andreas: Yes, the response to the DVB liaison
15:06:06 <nigel> Nigel: Apologies, I saw you wanted to discuss that and forgot to add it to the agenda.
15:06:06 <nigel> .. Consider it added.
15:06:26 <nigel> Topic: DAPT
15:07:02 <nigel> Subtopic: Horizontal Review
15:07:02 <nigel> Nigel: Current status is we have a completed review from Privacy and from Internationalisation
15:07:04 <nigel> .. and we are awaiting reviews from the other HR groups.
15:07:07 <nigel> Present+ Atsushi
15:07:50 <nigel> Atsushi: TAG colleagues have labelled the DAPT request as Accessibility
15:08:04 <nigel> .. It's in the accessibility track. I'm not sure why/how they are thinking, but they tagged it that way.
15:08:11 <nigel> Nigel: Thank you, I didn't notice that.
15:08:29 <nigel> Atsushi: I suppose TAG colleagues just wanted to hear from Accessibility colleagues about their concerns
15:08:44 <nigel> .. or views, but I'm not sure what is their actual intention.
15:08:50 <nigel> Nigel: OK, thank you
15:09:10 <nigel> Subtopic: Wide Review
15:09:47 <nigel> Nigel: We had some great feedback from DVW that Cyril raised as an issue, initially.
15:09:57 <nigel> .. It seemed to fit better as a Discussion, so I moved it to one:
15:10:13 <nigel> -> https://github.com/w3c/dapt/discussions/187 Specification review by DVW w3c/dapt#187
15:10:38 <nigel> .. So feel free to raise other discussions, or to comment on each thread within the DVW review discussion page.
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15:11:09 <nigel> .. This is a good pattern for other discussion topics too, potentially.
15:11:16 <nigel> Present+ Pierre
15:11:51 <nigel> Subtopic: Pull Request and Issue review
15:12:53 <nigel> Subtopic: Redraft opening section of §2.1 w3c/dapt#183
15:12:53 <nigel> github: https://github.com/w3c/dapt/pull/183
15:14:16 <nigel> Nigel: I made some more edits yesterday, Matt reviewed and approved.
15:14:30 <nigel> .. I just wanted to check in and understand what problems remain.
15:18:14 <nigel> Andreas: Reiterate that if other reviewers are happy, then we can go ahead.
15:18:24 <nigel> .. If these terms are as used in the domain, it's fine.
15:18:43 <nigel> .. I thought there were some cases were the term script on its own is used generically, like in Script Type
15:18:51 <nigel> Nigel: I can't see that.
15:19:14 <nigel> Andreas: It's in §2.2.1 3rd bullet
15:19:20 <nigel> Nigel: Ah, thank you, I will fix that.
15:19:31 <nigel> .. I'll also do another check through for any other instances of this.
15:20:37 <nigel> Andreas: I found one other place, in the same section, below the first example, 2nd paragraph.
15:21:15 <nigel> .. "The first example shows a script where ..."
15:21:19 <nigel> Nigel: Yes, I see what you mean.
15:21:53 <nigel> .. Apologies I didn't catch those before and resolve them. I will look for others, also if you
15:21:58 <nigel> .. find any more please let me know.
15:22:01 <nigel> Andreas: Yes, will do.
15:22:19 <nigel> SUMMARY: Remove standalone term "script" when it means script or transcript.
15:24:47 <nigel> Subtopic: Rework audio description original and translation languages w3c/dapt#179
15:24:55 <nigel> github: https://github.com/w3c/dapt/pull/179
15:25:23 <nigel> Nigel: I think the issues have now been resolved by removing Text Language Source for non-translated content,
15:25:34 <nigel> .. and having it set to the source language for translated content.
15:25:40 <nigel> .. The latest commits should express that.
15:25:44 <nigel> Andreas: I will review offline.
15:25:47 <nigel> Nigel: Thank you.
15:26:42 <nigel> Subtopic: Other DAPT matters
15:26:55 <nigel> Nigel: I raised an issue to add an editorial comment somewhere about the potential other uses
15:27:10 <nigel> .. of DAPT including using an Original Transcript as a post-production script.
15:27:32 <nigel> .. Matt raised this originally
15:27:52 <nigel> Matt: I haven't any specific wording off the top of my head but am happy to review a pull request
15:27:55 <nigel> Nigel: I'll work on that.
15:29:21 <nigel> Topic: W3C response to the DVB liaison
15:29:33 <nigel> [Matt leaves]
15:29:52 <nigel> Nigel: I haven't drafted anything specific here.
15:30:10 <nigel> Andreas: I think it would be good for TTWG to send something out as soon as possible.
15:30:30 <nigel> .. We have the discussion, and it's more or less finished. We just need the summary to send back
15:30:49 <nigel> .. so I would suggest that we try to agree on a draft offline before the next meeting, just so we can send something
15:30:54 <nigel> .. that the DVB can work with.
15:31:10 <nigel> Nigel: I think the action is on me to draft that, though I will take volunteers!
15:31:36 <nigel> Andreas: I would be happy if Nigel could sum it up.
15:31:42 <nigel> .. All of the comments would be very useful to have.
15:32:51 <nigel> Nigel: I think it is important that we send our feedback, given the nature of what we discussed.
15:33:11 <nigel> Andreas: [summarises briefly the discussion from TPAC]
15:33:30 <nigel> Nigel: Ok, I will try to bump that up my list of things that need reviewing.
15:33:46 <nigel> Pierre: I'm happy to review or contribute especially on the player model
15:33:55 <nigel> Nigel: That's helpful, thank you, I would love to take you up on that.
15:33:59 <nigel> Andreas: Thanks Pierre.
15:34:33 <nigel> Topic: Meeting close
15:35:17 <nigel> Nigel: We've finished our agenda for today. Let's adjourn. Thank you everyone.
15:35:28 <nigel> .. See you in a couple of weeks [adjourns meeting]
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15:36:55 <nigel> Chair: Nigel
15:37:04 <nigel> Scribe: Nigel
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15:43:46 <nigel> zakim, end meeting
15:43:46 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Andreas, Matt, Nigel, Atsushi, Pierre
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