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15:46:02 <ddahl> meeting: Voice Interaction
15:46:26 <ddahl> chair: debbie
15:46:34 <ddahl> scribe: ddahl
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15:48:11 <ddahl> present:debbie,gerard,jon,dirk,noreen
15:48:43 <ddahl> gerard: interested in embedding conversational AI in mobile devices
15:48:53 <ddahl> dirk: interested in standardizing voice interaction
15:49:03 <ddahl> ..curious to learn from Gerard about security
15:49:12 <ddahl> topic: github issues
15:49:25 <ddahl> dirk: close issue #5
15:49:35 <ddahl> ... in the architecture document
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15:50:22 <ddahl> dirk: description of Russian doll principle (#40)
15:54:59 <ddahl> noreen: looking at Russian doll in Wikipedia
15:55:09 <ddahl> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matryoshka_doll
15:55:17 <ddahl> noreen: it would be interesting to find a reference to that metaphor
15:55:39 <ddahl> s/reference/stable reference
15:55:46 <ddahl> noreen: will look for a reference
15:55:56 <ddahl> debbie: we agree to include a reference if noreen can find something appropriate
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15:56:41 <ddahl> dirk: will add noreen to github (nwhysel)
15:56:42 <ddahl> irk: roles and responsibilities (issue #36)
15:56:50 <ddahl> dirk: (reviews roles and responsibilities)
15:57:00 <ddahl> debbie: what about the provider of the IPA?
15:57:07 <ddahl> noreen: could be integrator
15:57:15 <ddahl> jon: this participant has multiple roles, e.g. designer and integrator
15:57:24 <ddahl> noreen: should disambiguate owner and user
15:57:35 <ddahl> dirk: user owns speaker, but someone in the house might be using it
15:57:44 <ddahl> noreen: two potential owners, bank and user
15:57:54 <ddahl> dirk: replace owner by platform provider?
15:58:05 <ddahl> ...should not mix up hardware device vs something that provider provides
15:58:14 <ddahl> jon: platform, enterprise owner, user
15:58:22 <ddahl> ... Amazon has multiple roles in this scheme
15:58:32 <ddahl> jon: if we envision this architecture as a guide for independent IPAs we have three roles
15:58:40 <ddahl> ... if it's a consumer-facing IPA (like an app) there would be two
15:58:49 <ddahl> debbie: should we add examples?
15:58:55 <ddahl> dirk: that would help
15:59:04 <ddahl> dirk: will revise list with examples
15:59:14 <ddahl> jon: will add examples from enterprise provider (3 roles)
15:59:27 <ddahl> debbie: revisit this next time
15:59:34 <ddahl> topic: compare OVON and voice interaction work
16:00:06 <ddahl> debbie: looks at OVON clusters and focus items https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-voiceinteraction/2023Jul/att-0001/overlapOvonClusters.pdf
16:00:19 <ddahl> debbie: the most mature OVON specs are dialog events and interagent protocols
16:00:30 <ddahl> ...let's compare dialog events  and interfaces
16:00:46 <ddahl> ...there is a spec for dialog events but examples would be better to look at https://github.com/open-voice-network/lib-interop/blob/main/python/sample-json/example-ovon-user-input-minimal.json
16:01:01 <ddahl> ...for OVON, vs. interfaces document https://w3c.github.io/voiceinteraction/voice%20interaction%20drafts/paInterfaces/paInterfaces.htm (section 4.1)
16:01:12 <ddahl> ...OVON has speaker id for either user or system
16:01:19 <ddahl> dirk: should add that to VI
16:01:27 <ddahl> topic: sending  audio data
16:01:38 <ddahl> dirk: two cases, one instance is sending user started speaking and finished utterance (endpointed) or streaming, audio is sent by some other means
16:01:53 <ddahl> ...either sender or receiver could endpoint
16:02:06 <ddahl> ...message says "user has started speaking, look here for the audio"
16:02:13 <ddahl> debbie: will compare and contrast dialog events and interfaces
16:02:25 <ddahl> dirk: will review
16:02:34 <ddahl> dirk: suggest putting use case task force on the agenda
16:02:48 <ddahl> debbie: agrees
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