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14:51:52 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), PaulG
14:51:55 <PaulG> zakim, agenda?
14:51:55 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
14:51:56 <Zakim> 2. TPAC [from Irfan]
14:51:56 <Zakim> 3. Action Items [from Irfan]
14:51:56 <Zakim> 4. Github Issues and examples [from Irfan]
14:51:57 <Zakim> 5. Other Business [from Irfan]
14:52:15 <PaulG> zakim clear agenda
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14:52:17 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
14:52:18 <Zakim> 2. TPAC [from Irfan]
14:52:18 <Zakim> 3. Action Items [from Irfan]
14:52:18 <Zakim> 4. Github Issues and examples [from Irfan]
14:52:19 <Zakim> 5. Other Business [from Irfan]
14:54:00 <PaulG> zakim clear agenda
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14:54:19 <PaulG> Agenda+ Agenda Review, Membership & Announcements
14:54:26 <PaulG> Agenda+ Review Use Cases
14:54:33 <PaulG> Agenda+ Action Items
14:54:39 <PaulG> Agenda+ Github Issues and examples
14:54:45 <PaulG> Agenda+ Other Business
14:54:56 <PaulG> present+
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15:02:23 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), IrfanA
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15:02:44 <IrfanA> meeting: Pronunciation Task Force Mon, Oct 2, 2023
15:04:13 <Alan> present+
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15:06:06 <PaulG> https://www.w3.org/TR/pronunciation-user-scenarios/
15:09:09 <PaulG> based on my reading, we make a strong case for alias in math equations in section 2.2.1. We also make a case for phoneme with homographs.
15:09:59 <PaulG> Dee: in math equations, the pause is needed for things like fractions
15:10:19 <PaulG> ...comma punctuation pauses aren't sufficient
15:10:56 <PaulG> Alan: sometimes speech engines will speak a comma
15:11:28 <PaulG> Dee: while it's fine for a screen reader, the punctuation isn't supposed to be ther
15:12:39 <PaulG> Alan: when you make block content, there needs to be a pause: lists, tables, table cells, when telling a story.
15:14:07 <PaulG> Dee: pausing with various lengths is important so the content announces as intended. I have more examples of that. Reading out response options like "B, C, D, E" can be hard to hear.
15:14:14 <IrfanA> me/ test
15:14:58 <PaulG> SarahWood: we don't want to do inventive spellings that will affect Braille displays
15:17:47 <PaulG> Dee: particularly in assessments, it's important that we're not stressing the test-taker's cognitive load with a poor presentation from the speec
15:21:26 <PaulG> Dee: example: using "1 - 3" could be understood as "1,2,3"
15:21:36 <PaulG> Dee: example: using "1 to 3" could be understood as "1,2,3"
15:21:39 <SarahWood> present+
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15:29:41 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, PaulG
15:29:48 <PaulG> zakim, close this item
15:29:48 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
15:29:49 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:29:49 <Zakim> 5. Other Business [from PaulG]
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15:35:59 <PaulG> we need support for: phoneme, say-as, break, sub/alias, emphasis (Dee mentioned using prosity volume in several examples that also use a break)
15:36:27 <PaulG> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:36:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/10/02-pronunciation-minutes.html PaulG
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