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15:05:06 <Zakim> RRSAgent, make logs Public
15:05:07 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), CharlesL
15:05:12 <CharlesL> agenda?
15:05:38 <Fazio> meeting: Maturity Model
15:05:51 <sheribyrne> Title: Maturity Model
15:06:12 <CharlesL> rrsagent, make minutes
15:06:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/20-maturity-minutes.html CharlesL
15:06:22 <Fazio> Agenda+ New Business
15:06:32 <Fazio> Agenda+ GitHub Che k In
15:06:41 <Fazio> Agenda+ TPAC Debrief
15:06:52 <Fazio> Agenda+ Equity Subgroup
15:07:05 <sheribyrne> scribe:sheribyrne
15:07:22 <sheribyrne> scribe: sheribyrne
15:07:24 <CharlesL> rrsagent, make minutes
15:07:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/20-maturity-minutes.html CharlesL
15:07:36 <sheribyrne> scribe+ sheribyrne
15:08:08 <sheribyrne> Fazio: CharlesL to send out minutes from TPAC breakout
15:08:16 <CharlesL> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/13-Maturity-minutes.html
15:08:31 <Fazio> zakim, next item
15:08:31 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:08:53 <Fazio> no new business
15:08:55 <sheribyrne> Fazio: asked for new business, no one had anything
15:09:03 <Fazio> zakim, next item
15:09:03 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Fazio
15:09:13 <CharlesL> zakim, close item 1
15:09:14 <Zakim> agendum 1, New Business, closed
15:09:14 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:09:14 <Zakim> 2. GitHub Che k In [from Fazio]
15:09:21 <CharlesL> zakim, take up item 2
15:09:21 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- GitHub Che k In -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:09:49 <sheribyrne> Fazio: not too many new issues in Github
15:10:04 <sheribyrne> Fazio: surprised because people are aware and using it
15:10:44 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: maybe we should conduct specific user interviews to elicit specific feedback
15:11:24 <sheribyrne> present+
15:11:27 <Fazio> present+
15:11:31 <CharlesL> present+
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15:11:52 <Mark> present+
15:11:55 <sheribyrne> Lionel: maybe put together a survey
15:11:56 <Lionel> Present+
15:12:33 <sheribyrne> Lionel: offered to create a draft and distribute
15:13:17 <sheribyrne> Mark: was it easy to understand
15:13:25 <sheribyrne> Lionel: did you use the spreadsheet or other assets
15:13:51 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: which dimensions did you use, are there any that are missing
15:14:47 <sheribyrne> Lionel: let's use Google forms
15:16:00 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: for people who read it OR used it
15:16:31 <sheribyrne> Fazio: distribute it through social media
15:16:36 <sheribyrne> Fazio: and AGWG
15:16:52 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: RQTF and APA as well
15:17:54 <sheribyrne> Mark: we can review Mark's github issues week after next
15:18:08 <sheribyrne> Mark: early regrets for next week will be on PTO
15:18:12 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
15:18:12 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- TPAC Debrief -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:18:29 <CharlesL> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/13-Maturity-minutes.html
15:20:36 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: general discussion about TPAC
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15:26:29 <Lionel> Lionel: We may want the maturity model to make more explicit and clear how an organization can engage directly with the maturity model
15:26:44 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: we can add more detail to the use cases
15:26:46 <Lionel> ... while remaining aligned with the current status quo regarding WCAG 2.0 / 2.1 conformance
15:27:10 <Lionel> ... a use case could express this: that an organization applying the maturity model will uncover areas where they need to improve
15:27:29 <Lionel> ... and it is up to their discretion what of that, if any, to share on a public-facing document
15:27:49 <CharlesL> s/… while remaining/Lionel: while remaining
15:28:13 <CharlesL> zakim, next item
15:28:13 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- Equity Subgroup -- taken up [from Fazio]
15:28:13 <sheribyrne> Fazio: call for closure on TPAC conversation
15:30:23 <sheribyrne> Fazio: equity subgroup and maturity model subgroup models need to jive
15:30:36 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: we are way further down the road than they are
15:32:01 <sheribyrne> Fazio: sheribyrne should be the liason since she's already going to the meetings
15:32:14 <Lionel> sheribyrne: They want accounting for gender, ethnicity, socio-economic status
15:32:25 <Lionel> ... making sure one party is not dominating the conversation
15:32:37 <Lionel> ... these can be applied to the dimensions that we have
15:33:25 <sheribyrne> Mark: should we make a proposal on how to combine the two
15:34:54 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: we didn't include equity because we were told early on that we were already overstepping by including things like personnel
15:35:06 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: but of course we can add it
15:35:38 <sheribyrne> sheribyrne: could set up some one-off meetings to discuss so it's not maturity and not equity, it's both
15:36:32 <Lionel> Lionel: This resembles who Adapt met with COGA
15:36:47 <Lionel> ... we can arrange a meeting with Equity, present and hear them out
15:36:51 <sheribyrne> Fazio: we have options as to how to implement this
15:37:07 <Lionel> ... also, with Sheri in both groups, she may volunteer to be our bo-between
15:37:13 <Lionel> s/bo-/go-
15:38:08 <Lionel> sheribyrne: I will get this on the Equity agenda for Monday
15:40:03 <Lionel> rrsagent, make minutes
15:40:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/20-maturity-minutes.html Lionel
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