IRC log of apa on 2023-09-06

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please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina

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Meeting: APA Weekly Teleconference

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Date 06 Sep 2023

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Chair: Janina

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janina has changed the topic to: APA Weekly Teleconference; Wednesday 6 September at 1400Z

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Chair: Janina

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agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements

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agenda+ TPAC 2023 Planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023

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agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22

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agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

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agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues

12:50:36 [janina]

agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

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agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

12:50:41 [janina]

agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

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agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates

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agenda+ Other Business

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agenda+ be done

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regrets: Gottfried_Zimmerman, Nadine_Sienel

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present+

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agenda?

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present+

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scribe+ matatk

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zakim, next item

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agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]

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present+

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present+

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present+

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present+

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present+

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present+

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scribe: Fredrik

14:04:12 [matatk]

Welcome, giacomo-petri! *group introductions*

14:04:28 [janina]

zakim, who's here?

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Present: PaulG, matatk, Roy, janina, Nichole, giacomo-petri, Fredrik_

14:04:31 [Zakim]

On IRC I see Fredrik_, giacomo-petri, Nichole, matatk, Roy, PaulG, RRSAgent, Zakim, duga_, janina, gb, imlostlmao, gonzu_15, M2cshkpcgrp, ada, Rachael, tink, agendabot, ZoeBijl,

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... slightlyoff, cwilso, jcraig

14:05:09 [janina]

zakim, who's here?

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Present: PaulG, matatk, Roy, janina, Nichole, giacomo-petri, Fredrik_

14:05:10 [Zakim]

On IRC I see Fredrik_, giacomo-petri, Nichole, matatk, Roy, PaulG, RRSAgent, Zakim, duga_, janina, gb, imlostlmao, gonzu_15, M2cshkpcgrp, ada, Rachael, tink, agendabot, ZoeBijl,

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... slightlyoff, cwilso, jcraig

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present+

14:07:37 [janina]

zakim, who's here?

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Present: PaulG, matatk, Roy, janina, Nichole, giacomo-petri, Fredrik_, niklasegger

14:07:39 [Zakim]

On IRC I see niklasegger, Fredrik_, giacomo-petri, Nichole, matatk, Roy, PaulG, RRSAgent, Zakim, duga_, janina, gb, imlostlmao, gonzu_15, M2cshkpcgrp, ada, Rachael, tink,

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... agendabot, ZoeBijl, slightlyoff, cwilso, jcraig

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/06-apa-minutes.html matatk

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present+

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zakim, who's here?

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Present: PaulG, matatk, Roy, janina, Nichole, giacomo-petri, Fredrik_, niklasegger, Lionel_Wolberger

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On IRC I see Lionel_Wolberger, niklasegger, Fredrik_, giacomo-petri, Nichole, matatk, Roy, PaulG, RRSAgent, Zakim, duga_, janina, gb, imlostlmao, gonzu_15, M2cshkpcgrp, ada,

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... Rachael, tink, agendabot, ZoeBijl, slightlyoff, cwilso, jcraig

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present+

14:16:36 [matatk]

janina: Next week is TPAC, so this call isn't happening.

14:17:24 [matatk]

... Customarily, we (APA, and usually the task forces), will not meet in the week following TPAC. So no APA call for the next two weeks. Check with your TFs about the week of the 18th.

14:17:40 [matatk]

... Our next APA WG call will be the 27th—of course a lot of stuff going on next week!

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zakim, next item

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agendum 2 -- TPAC 2023 Planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 -- taken up [from janina]

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scribe+ Fredrik_

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scribe: Fredrik

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scribe+ matatk

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matatk: All info on TPAC is on the wiki page.

14:23:57 [Fredrik_]

matatk: Tuesday, Thursday are most busy. Friday a little, but the rest are rather open.

14:25:14 [Fredrik_]

matatk: I've put links to our calednar entries at the bottom of the wiki page. Most, all of you in fact, should be automatically subscribed to those calendar entries because of your memebership in APA.

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zakim, next item

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agendum 3 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]

14:28:17 [matatk]

rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/06-apa-minutes.html matatk

14:28:25 [matatk]

zakim, close this item

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agendum 3 closed

14:28:26 [matatk]

zakim, next item

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I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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4. A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina]

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agendum 4 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]

14:28:39 [Roy]

subtopic: Rendering of <input type=image> that does not represent an image

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- issue: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/9677

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- tracked at: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/171

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https://github.com/orgs/whatwg/teams/a11y

14:35:05 [matatk]

matatk: We'll review this in more detail on Monday; we checked out the process to identify who gets notified and by what.

14:35:21 [matatk]

Roy: The WHATWG a11y team was mentioned, whcih includes people from ARIA WG.

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agenda?

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zakim, drop item 5

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agendum 5, Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues, dropped

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zakim, drop item 6

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agendum 6, new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html, dropped

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zakim, next item

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agendum 7 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]

14:36:18 [matatk]

PaulG: Lots of API discussion this week; nothing accessibility-sepcifc.

14:39:35 [matatk]

https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023#CSS

14:41:20 [matatk]

PaulG: View transitions is mostly about animation. If the entire page is transitioning, then that's a necessary part of the application. It doesn't affect the accessibility tree.

14:42:13 [matatk]

... Anchor positioning: Relates to layout. Trying to make various aspects of the language more consistent.

14:42:29 [matatk]

... These are primarily about developer experience.

14:42:36 [matatk]

... Will review further before the meeting.

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agenda?

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zakim, next item

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agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]

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zakim, next item

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agendum 9 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]

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subtopic: Adapt

14:51:15 [matatk]

janina: We've been working on a handout for conferences (e.g. TPAC) to demonstrate the concept of symbols, and different symbol sets, to people.

14:51:26 [matatk]

... One symbol set will be Bliss, and one ARASAAC. This will demonstrate the need for support for multiple symbol sets.

14:51:40 [matatk]

... The work we're doing acts as a Rosetta stone.

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... This allows people to receive symbols in the symbol set they know. This has been a great success in communication (i.e. AAC).

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/06-apa-minutes.html matatk

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... Now we're bringing it to web content!

14:52:56 [matatk]

subtopic: Pronunciation

14:53:16 [matatk]

janina: We will be asking people from big organisations for feedback on the AT Vendors survey.

14:53:22 [matatk]

subtopic: RQTF

14:54:06 [matatk]

https://www.w3.org/TR/ctaur/

14:54:10 [matatk]

janina: Great work being done on CTUAR

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janina: We have added AI tools into CTAUR

14:55:12 [matatk]

janina: This raises opportunities, and challenges.

14:55:21 [matatk]

janina: Check out the minutes from today's RQTF (the previous hour).

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zakim, next item

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agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]

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zakim, close this item

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agendum 10 closed

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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:

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11. be done [from janina]

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zakim, next item

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agendum 11 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/06-apa-minutes.html matatk

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agenda?

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regrets+ Nadine

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regrets+ Gottfried

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zakim, end meeting

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As of this point the attendees have been PaulG, matatk, Roy, janina, Nichole, giacomo-petri, Fredrik_, niklasegger, Lionel_Wolberger

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RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/09/06-apa-minutes.html Zakim

18:26:12 [Zakim]

I am happy to have been of service, matatk; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye

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