IRC log of maturity on 2023-08-09
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- RRSAgent, make logs Public
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- please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio_
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- agenda+ New Business
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- Agenda+ Discuss Publication Update
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- present+
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- agenda?
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- present+
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- scribe+
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- Scribe: Charles
- 15:05:09 [Fazio_]
- Maturity Model Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/ISO_%26_Maturity_Modeling
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- present+
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- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio_]
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- Fazio_: Any new items, TPAC submission etc.
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- present+
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- zakim, close item
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- I don't understand 'close item', CharlesL
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- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 1 was just opened, CharlesL
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- zakim, close this item
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- agendum 1 closed
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- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
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- 2. Discuss Publication Update [from Fazio_]
- 15:06:54 [CharlesL]
- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 2 -- Discuss Publication Update -- taken up [from Fazio_]
- 15:11:27 [Fazio_]
- Charles spent significant time updating spreadsheet. Many nonsensical values aggregated
- 15:12:00 [CharlesL]
- A11yMaturityTemplate-20230807.xlsx
- 15:12:07 [Fazio_]
- Benetech went through 3 or 4 dimensions
- 15:12:24 [CharlesL]
- https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model
- 15:12:41 [Mark]
- CharlesL: A lot of time updating spreadsheet. Been threw a few demotion at Benetech
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- Fazio_: Prof point in spreadsheet needs to be aligned with specifications.
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- CharlesL: Not publishing spreadsheet. Keeping in sperate URL
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- https://w3c.github.io/maturity-model/
- 15:13:53 [Mark]
- Fazio_: Have we committed merged and completed?
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- CharlesL: Doesn’t have a link to spreadsheet. Roy was going to do that.
- 15:15:24 [Nichole]
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- 15:15:24 [Fazio_]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/ISO_%26_Maturity_Modeling
- 15:15:31 [Nichole]
- present+
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- Fazio_: Plan to create a wiki page to house spreadsheet. We had one no on knew about. Not up to date. Look at wiki link posted earlier.
- 15:15:56 [jlkline]
- queue+
- 15:16:46 [Mark]
- Fazio_: How does everyone feel about the URI? We may want to change as it points to silver.
- 15:19:38 [Fazio_]
- Historical Archive of Maturity Model on Wiki?
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- janina preset+
- 15:19:53 [CharlesL]
- Janina: 1. move wiki to APA, 2. what do we want to add to this wiki. 3. do we want historic versions of the excel spreadsheets.
- 15:19:58 [CharlesL]
- present+ Janina
- 15:20:37 [Fazio_]
- Do we keep historical pub archives on Wiki
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- +1
- 15:20:54 [Mark]
- +1
- 15:20:59 [CharlesL]
- -1, should always point to the latest
- 15:22:48 [Fazio_]
- How about we point to Github
- 15:24:59 [CharlesL]
- Charles: wiki should point into the latest Editor's draft section 2.4.1 Latest Accessibility Maturity Model which will always point to the latest.
- 15:26:07 [CharlesL]
- IrfanA: I will help in this.
- 15:26:19 [CharlesL]
- Mark: I can help clean up the Wiki page as well.
- 15:26:43 [CharlesL]
- Fazio_: What do we want to keep?
- 15:27:00 [Fazio_]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/ISO_%26_Maturity_Modeling
- 15:27:14 [CharlesL]
- Janina: we need to move this over to the APA space.
- 15:27:54 [CharlesL]
- … this version can be the History, we can start with a new Version in APA space
- 15:28:38 [CharlesL]
- … I think we can just create one in APA. I will check with Roy.
- 15:29:44 [CharlesL]
- Mark: we can't make changes until we get a new APA wiki for this TF
- 15:31:56 [CharlesL]
- Fazio_: I would expect comments on the Spreadsheet. Once we get a review from others.
- 15:32:58 [CharlesL]
- jlkline: I am wondering if the Maturity Model In Github should have all the same proof points.
- 15:33:11 [CharlesL]
- … as the ones in the excel spreadsheet.
- 15:33:31 [CharlesL]
- … people can add/ take away proofpoints as they see fit.
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- … we should at some point freeze it call it a version. only when we need to make a change.
- 15:34:31 [CharlesL]
- Janina: if all we do is point to 2.4.1 for the latest Excel spreadhseet.
- 15:34:42 [CharlesL]
- … we may not even need a wiki.
- 15:37:36 [CharlesL]
- Charles will create a new section 2.4.1 in the maturity model.
- 15:40:18 [CharlesL]
- Janina: we may not need to keep the date on the excel file name. since this is stored in github history.
- 15:40:30 [CharlesL]
- … I will ask Roy and see what is best option.
- 15:40:59 [CharlesL]
- Fazio_: Maybe we can just update the TF web page with the links to these various documents / spreadsheet.
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- … instead of the wiki.
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- q?
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- ack jlkline
- 15:42:09 [Fazio_]
- Maturity Model Task Force Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/
- 15:42:44 [CharlesL]
- jlKline: do we have everything in the spreadsheet / Maturity Model specification.
- 15:43:18 [CharlesL]
- Janina: we can reach to perfection. what is on the TF page we do want to freeze pointing to the various documents.
- 15:44:21 [CharlesL]
- Janina: we don't need APA's approval for a new Working Draft
- 15:45:07 [CharlesL]
- jlkline: if there are changes to the communication Tab, it doesn't have the Maturity Level Goal Line.
- 15:47:10 [CharlesL]
- … Jeff will send the change he would like to add to the template.
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- RESOLUTION: Have one file name for the maturity model exell document instead of each having its own date.
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- Charles will also work on https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/172 and https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/173
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- Janina: Submit to TPAC page for breakout session due by early Sept.
- 15:54:17 [CharlesL]
- Fazio_: I will submit for TPAC.
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/09-maturity-minutes.html IrfanA
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- zakim, end meeting
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- As of this point the attendees have been Fazio_, CharlesL, IrfanA, Mark, jlkline, Nichole, Janina
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- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/09-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
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- I am happy to have been of service, CharlesL; please remember to excuse RRSAgent. Goodbye
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