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14:33:59 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), Fazio_
14:34:12 <Fazio_> agenda+ New Business
14:35:02 <Fazio_> Agenda+ Discuss Publication Update
14:57:49 <Fazio_> present+
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15:04:12 <CharlesL> agenda?
15:04:14 <IrfanA> present+
15:04:52 <CharlesL> scribe+
15:05:06 <IrfanA> Scribe: Charles
15:05:09 <Fazio_> Maturity Model Wiki: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/ISO_%26_Maturity_Modeling
15:05:12 <Mark> present+
15:05:46 <CharlesL> zakim, take up next item
15:05:46 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- New Business -- taken up [from Fazio_]
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15:06:08 <CharlesL> Fazio_: Any new items, TPAC submission etc.
15:06:12 <jlkline> present+
15:06:28 <CharlesL> zakim, close item
15:06:28 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', CharlesL
15:06:39 <CharlesL> zakim, take up next item
15:06:39 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, CharlesL
15:06:46 <CharlesL> zakim, close this item
15:06:46 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
15:06:47 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:06:47 <Zakim> 2. Discuss Publication Update [from Fazio_]
15:06:54 <CharlesL> zakim, take up next item
15:06:54 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Discuss Publication Update -- taken up [from Fazio_]
15:11:27 <Fazio_> Charles spent significant time updating spreadsheet. Many nonsensical values aggregated
15:12:00 <CharlesL> A11yMaturityTemplate-20230807.xlsx
15:12:07 <Fazio_> Benetech went through 3 or 4 dimensions
15:12:24 <CharlesL> https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model
15:12:41 <Mark> CharlesL: A lot of time updating spreadsheet. Been threw a few demotion at Benetech
15:13:01 <Mark> Fazio_: Prof point in spreadsheet needs to be aligned with specifications.
15:13:15 <Mark> CharlesL: Not publishing spreadsheet. Keeping in sperate URL
15:13:41 <CharlesL> https://w3c.github.io/maturity-model/
15:13:53 <Mark> Fazio_: Have we committed merged and completed?
15:15:22 <Mark> CharlesL: Doesn’t have a link to spreadsheet. Roy was going to do that.
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15:15:24 <Fazio_> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/ISO_%26_Maturity_Modeling
15:15:31 <Nichole> present+
15:15:35 <Mark> Fazio_: Plan to create a wiki page to house spreadsheet. We had one no on knew about. Not up to date. Look at wiki link posted earlier.
15:15:56 <jlkline> queue+
15:16:46 <Mark> Fazio_: How does everyone feel about the URI? We may want to change as it points to silver.
15:19:38 <Fazio_> Historical Archive of Maturity Model on Wiki?
15:19:50 <Fazio_> janina preset+
15:19:53 <CharlesL> Janina: 1. move wiki to APA, 2. what do we want to add to this wiki. 3. do we want historic versions of the excel spreadsheets.
15:19:58 <CharlesL> present+ Janina
15:20:37 <Fazio_> Do we keep historical pub archives on Wiki
15:20:46 <Fazio_> +1
15:20:54 <Mark> +1
15:20:59 <CharlesL> -1, should always point to the latest
15:22:48 <Fazio_> How about we point to Github
15:24:59 <CharlesL> Charles: wiki should point into the latest Editor's draft section 2.4.1 Latest Accessibility Maturity Model which will always point to the latest.
15:26:07 <CharlesL> IrfanA: I will help in this.
15:26:19 <CharlesL> Mark: I can help clean up the Wiki page as well.
15:26:43 <CharlesL> Fazio_: What do we want to keep?
15:27:00 <Fazio_> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/ISO_%26_Maturity_Modeling
15:27:14 <CharlesL> Janina: we need to move this over to the APA space.
15:27:54 <CharlesL> … this version can be the History, we can start with a new Version in APA space
15:28:38 <CharlesL> … I think we can just create one in APA.  I will check with Roy.
15:29:44 <CharlesL> Mark: we can't make changes until we get a new APA wiki for this TF
15:31:56 <CharlesL> Fazio_: I would expect comments on the Spreadsheet.  Once we get a review from others.
15:32:58 <CharlesL> jlkline: I am wondering if the Maturity Model In Github should have all the same proof points.
15:33:11 <CharlesL> … as the ones in the excel spreadsheet.
15:33:31 <CharlesL> … people can add/ take away proofpoints as they see fit.
15:33:52 <CharlesL> … we should at some point freeze it call it a version.  only when we need to make a change.
15:34:31 <CharlesL> Janina: if all we do is point to 2.4.1 for the latest Excel spreadhseet.
15:34:42 <CharlesL> … we may not even need a wiki.
15:37:36 <CharlesL> Charles will create a new section 2.4.1 in the maturity model.
15:40:18 <CharlesL> Janina: we may not need to keep the date on the excel file name. since this is stored in github history.
15:40:30 <CharlesL> … I will ask Roy and see what is best option.
15:40:59 <CharlesL> Fazio_: Maybe we can just update the TF web page with the links to these various documents / spreadsheet.
15:41:11 <CharlesL> … instead of the wiki.
15:42:03 <CharlesL> q?
15:42:09 <CharlesL> ack jlkline
15:42:09 <Fazio_> Maturity Model Task Force Page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/
15:42:44 <CharlesL> jlKline: do we have everything in the spreadsheet / Maturity Model specification.
15:43:18 <CharlesL> Janina: we can reach to perfection. what is on the TF page we do want to freeze pointing to the various documents.
15:44:21 <CharlesL> Janina: we don't need APA's approval for a new Working Draft
15:45:07 <CharlesL> jlkline: if there are changes to the communication Tab, it doesn't have the Maturity Level Goal Line.
15:47:10 <CharlesL> … Jeff will send the change he would like to add to the template.
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15:50:14 <CharlesL> RESOLUTION: Have one file name for the maturity model exell document instead of each having its own date.
15:53:02 <CharlesL> Charles will also work on https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/172 and https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/173
15:53:59 <CharlesL> Janina: Submit to TPAC page for breakout session due by early Sept.
15:54:17 <CharlesL> Fazio_: I will submit for TPAC.
15:56:57 <IrfanA> rrsagent, make minutes
15:56:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/09-maturity-minutes.html IrfanA
15:57:37 <CharlesL> zakim, end meeting
15:57:37 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Fazio_, CharlesL, IrfanA, Mark, jlkline, Nichole, Janina
15:57:39 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:57:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/09-maturity-minutes.html Zakim
15:57:46 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, CharlesL; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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