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21:07:37 <roba> present+
21:07:47 <Caroline_> rrsagent, make logs public
21:08:02 <Caroline_> chair: Caroline_
21:08:13 <Caroline_> regrets+ LarsG
21:08:15 <Caroline_> Present+
21:08:40 <roba> scribenick: roba
21:08:44 <Nobu_OGURA> present+
21:08:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+
21:09:08 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2023/05/09-dxwg-minutes
21:10:34 <roba> Proposed: Approve minutes of last meeting
21:11:16 <roba> +0
21:11:17 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1
21:11:18 <Caroline_> Present+ 0
21:11:18 <Nobu_OGURA> +1
21:11:42 <roba> Resolved: Approve minutes of last meeting
21:12:09 <roba> Topic: DCAT vote status
21:13:14 <roba> riccardoAlbertoni: can we start with ConnegP in the hope that Annette will join later to discuss the issue she raised
21:13:31 <roba> Topic: ConnegP update
21:13:59 <riccardoAlbertoni> attemp
21:14:02 <Caroline_> Test
21:14:17 <Caroline_> scribe: Caroline_
21:15:12 <roba> https://github.com/w3c/dx-connegp/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22due+for+closing%22
21:15:13 <Caroline_> roba: Conneg subgroup is meeting regularly. We have a small group: LarsG, PHD student, myself
21:15:35 <Caroline_> ... we have working on this https://github.com/w3c/dx-connegp/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22due+for+closing%22
21:15:44 <roba> https://github.com/w3c/dx-connegp/pull/42 to finish to close
21:15:47 <Caroline_> ... still fixes to do
21:16:11 <Caroline_> ... we want to close this one https://github.com/w3c/dx-connegp/pull/42 after receiving comments from the plenary
21:16:49 <Caroline_> ... we are happy to bring the substantial changes for the plenary
21:17:16 <Caroline_> ... other than that the question is that do we close the issues or do we bring the issues here to be formerly closed?
21:18:05 <Caroline_> riccardoAlbertoni: at DCAT we close the issues directly on github but we keep the plenary aware of changes
21:18:22 <Caroline_> ... at the moment we don't have plenary meetings regularly
21:19:04 <Caroline_> ... if there is anything substantial it would be important to discuss with plenary
21:19:20 <riccardoAlbertoni> q+
21:19:35 <Caroline_> roba: anyone who has issues will receive the notification
21:19:43 <Caroline_> ... we will flag the next set for review
21:20:22 <Caroline_> ... this will be open until the next subgroup meeting
21:20:24 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:20:47 <roba> next meeting Wed 9th
21:21:26 <Caroline_> riccardoAlbertoni: the transparency is important. Communicate the agenda to the mailing list and be sure to give the opportunity to join if someone has any specific concern
21:21:38 <Caroline_> ... but keep going if there is no concerns
21:21:49 <Caroline_> roba: we will send everyone the agenda
21:21:54 <Caroline_> q+
21:22:18 <Caroline_> roba: the next meeting is on August 9th. When should I send out the agenda?
21:22:39 <Caroline_> riccardoAlbertoni: there is a rule that says 24h fro sending out the agenda
21:22:59 <Caroline_> ... it is important to put the meeting on w3c calendar
21:23:07 <Caroline_> ack
21:23:12 <Caroline_> ack Caroline_
21:24:30 <Caroline_> Who is participating in this subgroup?
21:24:49 <roba> https://github.com/YoucTagh
21:25:28 <Caroline_> roba: myself, LarsG, Nick, Pierre-Antoine, and a PHD student
21:25:47 <Caroline_> ... if there is something about RDF we will bring to the plenary attention
21:26:00 <Caroline_> ... of course the soubgroup is open to anyone
21:26:24 <Caroline_> ... we would like to get the review from this person who works with open API
21:27:32 <Caroline_> ... we haven't changed any substantial subjects yet
21:27:55 <Caroline_> ... we are working on the components to serve as examples to deploy connegp
21:28:01 <riccardoAlbertoni> q+
21:28:12 <Caroline_> ack riccardoAlbertoni
21:28:46 <Caroline_> riccardoAlbertoni: Is it a draft recommendation already?
21:29:19 <Caroline_> roba: there is a small number of people testing it. It is on the way to become a draft recommendation
21:29:56 <Caroline_> ... there are two possibilities: connegp descriptive behavior and the alternative is to describe the primary dataset
21:30:19 <Caroline_> ... we could look at it as a normative
21:31:12 <Caroline_> Caroline_: have you talked about time schedule?
21:31:24 <Caroline_> roba: we are working on solving the issues first
21:31:40 <Caroline_> ... that cleared we will start working on the timetable
21:33:52 <Caroline_> Topic: DCAT vote status
21:33:56 <roba> ... reach out to the W3C business development
21:34:11 <Caroline_> scribe: roba
21:34:49 <roba> riccardoAlbertoni: Have not had time to respond yet directly to Annette re vote comments
21:35:01 <roba> ... would like to address misunderstanding
21:35:35 <roba> ... reached out to Nick Doty at the time, he provided suggestions as to how to improve
21:37:27 <roba> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1526
21:38:29 <riccardoAlbertoni> Diff: https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/dcat/&doc2=https://raw.githack.com/w3c/dxwg/dcat-issue-1526-bis/dcat/index.html#security_and_privacy
21:38:40 <roba> "It's an improvement to at least have these concerns noted in the spec."
21:44:14 <roba> what is the option described in this diff?
21:44:44 <roba> riccardoAlbertoni: This is a possible option to refine the document
21:45:31 <roba> ... alternative is to leave document as is since no normative change is required
21:46:43 <roba> ... can share proposed revision with Annette - but not comfortable as original DCAT participants in this issue not available to review
21:48:21 <roba> ... propose to send email to Annette and regular contributors to see if this is a common view and consistent and see if agreement to change can be achieved in next 3 weeks.
21:49:06 <roba> Caroline_: sounds like a good idea
21:50:03 <roba> Action: riccardoAlbertoni to send email to Annette and regular contributors to see if this is a common view and consistent and see if agreement to change can be achieved in next 3 weeks.
21:51:38 <roba> roba: Noting OGC has proposed a GeoDCAT profile:  https://www.ogc.org/press-release/ogc-forms-new-geodcat-standards-working-group/
21:52:32 <roba> ... we can bring this to the OGC Security WG https://portal.ogc.org/?m=projects&a=view&project_id=216
21:55:17 <roba> riccardoAlbertoni: prefer to leave this to a next round where specific requirements are solicited
21:55:50 <roba> ... we need the right people defining requirements to address this further
21:58:15 <roba> riccardoAlbertoni: Bert Bos confirmed DCAT3 is compliant with DCAT 2
22:00:14 <Caroline_> meeting adjourned
22:00:32 <Caroline_> rrsagent, create minutes v2
22:00:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/01-dxwg-minutes.html Caroline_
22:00:41 <riccardoAlbertoni> s/DCAT3 is compliant with DCAT 2/DCAT-AP 3 is compliant with DCAT 3
22:01:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> s\DCAT3 is compliant with DCAT 2\DCAT-AP 3 is compliant with DCAT 3
22:01:35 <riccardoAlbertoni>  rrsagent, create minutes v2
22:01:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/08/01-dxwg-minutes.html riccardoAlbertoni