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12:51:32 <Zakim> Meeting: Cognitive and Learning Disabilities Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
12:52:09 <Lisa> scribe+ EA
12:52:45 <Lisa> agenda?
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12:53:08 <Lisa> agenda+ stucture subgroup
12:53:23 <Lisa> agenda+ 2023 COGA Review of CTAUR - Collaboration Tools Accessibility User Requirements <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CJhBYRI-zk2rl_mohHZ63xAGZxzpDMxhHhXT66bjFBI/edit#heading=h.9s2myah44bjb
12:53:35 <Lisa> agenda+ updates and actions https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit#heading=h.ka7r1m4q5vkc
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14:49:59 <Lisa> RRSAgent, publish minutes
14:50:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/07/17-coga-minutes.html Lisa
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15:02:15 <Lisa> scribe: Eric
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15:02:27 <Jennie> *Thanks Eric!
15:02:31 <Lisa> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Scribe_list
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15:05:14 <eric_hind_> Rachael notes that there will be training in August; there will be 3 new groups; motion, content order, timing and interruptions.
15:05:44 <Lisa> Q?
15:05:58 <Rachael> Draft AG meeting process: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oD7M3b9i0iPMIKoakjwOOcEZH1h6hsjBuOXEqPPzoAQ/edit#heading=h.1o3pppa9gh4v
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15:07:04 <Rachael> Early example link:  https://github.com/w3c/wcag3/pull/2#issuecomment-1635861716
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15:07:40 <Rachael> 3 subgroups that are starting: Harm from motion Monday 8 am for 8 weeks
15:07:58 <eric_hind_> Rain:  individuals should note that each group is a commit of about 4 hours/week
15:08:48 <becca_monteleone> present+
15:08:50 <Rachael> Content Order Monday 10 Eastern
15:09:05 <Lisa> ack next
15:09:14 <Rachael> Timing and interruptions Mondays at 12 noon eastern
15:10:05 <eric_hind_> Julie:  We have gone through content usable, looking for sprint teams.  Rachael: sent to either AG Plan or Wilco and Rachael.
15:11:10 <eric_hind_> Lisa: Everyone can review these documents ahead of time for next week when we'll walk through it.
15:11:52 <eric_hind_> Rachael: please connect with me if interested in the subgroups at any point
15:11:52 <julierawe> Here is the doc that Katy and I put together of the parts of Content Usable that are relevant to the new WCAG 3 sprint groups: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m-vnccylky4-jWxWGuw3_JZCSajWK-5WQu1CKdeGdG4/edit
15:12:26 <Lisa> Q?
15:12:40 <Lisa> nect item
15:12:46 <Lisa> next item
15:13:15 <Rain> Link to next version of content useable, restructure proposal: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KHWpKAWOb6p7r-WdrdDUIqFB3BCVnLjRYVcEBM88hPQ/edit#heading=h.cusjdumtyv7i
15:14:16 <eric_hind_> Rain: Looking for feedback by July 6th but need more subgroup input.  Ideally by Wednesday.
15:15:40 <eric_hind_> Rain: The ask... #1. Task force to review by Wednesday...
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15:17:48 <eric_hind_> Rachael and Rain talk about how the document would be structure; 1 document that allows better version control.  But different documents would be a potential way to address different needs.
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15:20:08 <JustineP> q-
15:20:28 <eric_hind_> Rain: Meet on the 20th to review existing, and new comments.. with Justine and Eric?  Yes, they can meetup.
15:20:38 <Rain> Thursday July 20th time is 11am ET / 8am PT -- join link same as for this meeting: https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_coga
15:21:35 <Lisa> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15HtPkkYx1CIl6bAwP2nsSZKhqTVbqcuMDRz5RmtmvXg/edit
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15:23:15 <eric_hind_> Julie asked Rain about the new structure wrt smaller numbers of objectives?
15:24:51 <eric_hind_> Rain explained the proposed changes; reduced structure plus a custom view of content, role, etc.   This is based on the card sorts from earlier; there was a diverse range of expectations.
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15:26:21 <Lisa> next item
15:29:11 <eric_hind_> Lisa: Jenny and Lisa review the CTAUR comment and editing history so far.  There may not be enough text around user requirement (yet).
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15:34:14 <julierawe> +1 to Rain's suggestion
15:34:26 <JustineP> +1 to Rain
15:34:29 <eric_hind_> +1  to rain
15:35:43 <Rain> q+
15:36:24 <Lisa> q?
15:37:50 <Rain> ack Rain
15:38:40 <Rain> +1 to add neurodiverse to the document
15:38:43 <Jennie> +1
15:42:37 <julierawe> q+
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15:44:28 <Jennie> * And Jennie was paraphrasing suggestions made by COGA members in a variety of documents
15:46:28 <eric_hind_> Lisa: Walked through the existing comments and brought up the ones where there was ambiguity or a lack of clarity (e.g. what does WYSIWYG mean to most people, adding more text around content usable, adding or changing individual words or definitions, expanding suggested requirements)
15:47:28 <Jennie> Looks really good Lisa!
15:47:37 <eric_hind_> Lisa: Proposal; send the document to the list, especially John and Shawn, to ensure everyone is comfortable with it.  By end of week for review.
15:48:27 <Jennie> +1
15:48:45 <Lisa> next item
15:48:45 <Rain> +1
15:49:28 <eric_hind_> Lisa: Tasks/Action item updates as well as subgroups.
15:49:40 <julierawe> q+
15:50:07 <eric_hind_> Lisa: Reminder, review issue papers on conversational interfaces, and wayfinding (per Actoin item)
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15:53:44 <eric_hind_> Lisa: Mental Health group... David: the page is cleaned up, the additional analysis is in-progress (no time commit yet to finish).  Additional paper review mostly done.
15:54:48 <eric_hind_> Lisa: Making content usable is slightly late, but should be done in good order and done soon.
15:55:35 <eric_hind_> Lisa and Jenny talked about Images subgroup; there have been scheduling difficulties but working forward.
15:56:59 <eric_hind_> Working with WCAG 3:  Discuss Clear language tasks
15:58:51 <Lisa> Q?
15:59:01 <eric_hind_> W3C and Internationalization: Katie to co-chair but looking for a co-lead and is recruiting for the group.
15:59:31 <eric_hind_> Julie may be able to co-lead with Katie (short term).
16:01:08 <eric_hind_> Testing Strategy: Jennie to add current draft. Group on hold for now.
16:01:24 <Jennie> Have a good week!
16:01:33 <Lisa>  RRSAgent, publish minutes
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