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14:02:32 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), janina
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14:02:34 <janina> Meeting: APA Teleconference
14:02:39 <janina> Date 12 Jul 2023
14:02:46 <Fredrik> present+
14:03:09 <Nichole> present+
14:03:44 <janina> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
14:03:44 <janina> agenda+ Charter Update https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/results
14:03:47 <janina> agenda+ TPAC 2023 Planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023
14:03:49 <janina> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22
14:03:52 <janina> agenda+ A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
14:03:55 <janina> agenda+ Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues
14:03:59 <janina> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
14:04:00 <janina> agenda+ CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
14:04:03 <janina> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
14:04:03 <Fredrik> scribe: Fredrik
14:04:05 <janina> agenda+ Task Force & Deliverables Updates
14:04:08 <janina> agenda+ Other Business
14:04:11 <janina> agenda+ be done
14:04:28 <janina> present+
14:04:32 <janina> Chair: Janina
14:04:52 <Fredrik> zakim, take up next item
14:04:52 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from janina]
14:05:09 <Fredrik> janina: We'll get as much as we can. Only four of us here.
14:05:32 <Fredrik> janina: One announcement: I wil be moving at the beginning of August. all of my participating in everything W3C is up in the air the first days of August.
14:05:43 <Fredrik> janina: I did find a place in NYC last week and I will be moving.
14:07:03 <Fredrik> Fredrik: I will be vactioning until August 9.
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14:08:06 <Fredrik> Nichole: I will be out the next two weeks for business travel. I wil be back for the meeting on August 2.
14:08:16 <Fredrik> janina: Possibly I will be here then, but we don't know.
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14:08:20 <Roy> present+
14:08:58 <PaulG> Present+
14:09:00 <PaulG> (running late to the call)
14:09:22 <Fredrik> Roy: I will be available for all of August at least.
14:09:36 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:09:36 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- Charter Update https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/results -- taken up [from janina]
14:09:54 <Fredrik> janina: Still trying to resolve things with the non-blocking objection.
14:10:18 <Fredrik> janina: It is on the agenda until it's a done deal. We hope it willbe a done deal by August, may be even by next week.
14:10:27 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:10:27 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
14:10:28 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:10:28 <Zakim> 3. TPAC 2023 Planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 [from janina]
14:10:31 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:10:31 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- TPAC 2023 Planning - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2023 -- taken up [from janina]
14:10:48 <Fredrik> janina: We are busy-busy-busy!
14:11:04 <Fredrik> janina: We had a meeting witht he Media IG yesterday. In the e-mail following we got a good list of what they are looking at.
14:11:16 <Fredrik> janina: Some of it was encouraging, other things were concerning.
14:11:24 <Fredrik> janina: I will forward this e-mail to this list.
14:11:32 <Fredrik> janina: We have committed to update the MAUR 2.0.
14:12:34 <Fredrik> janina: They are leaving HTML for a Canvas environment.
14:13:34 <Fredrik> PaulG: If you put interactable content in the noscript part of a canvas tag today, that content can be focusable. In that case, you can make canvas content accessible. Would WHATWG be on the hook for wriitn that into the spec (since it is a working undocumented feature)?
14:13:44 <Fredrik> janina: It wasn't as well documented as it should have been coming out of creating 5.
14:14:00 <Fredrik> janina: Anything bitmap and you're basically either reinventing a11y or thumbing your nose at it.
14:14:44 <Fredrik> janina: A very useful exchange with Media.
14:14:53 <Fredrik> janina: Apple is actively moving to use heuristics and trap flashing.
14:15:15 <Fredrik> janina: We will continue that convo at TPAC.
14:15:34 <Fredrik> janina: Some of things relate to EPUB (in a maintenance mode), some might relate to ARIA and so on.
14:15:48 <Fredrik> janina: #tpac We#re holding out for a scheduled meeting with TAG.
14:17:34 <Roy> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/Overview.html
14:17:58 <Fredrik> janina: There is a hardship fund for financing TPAC participation. The deadline for that is very soon.
14:18:17 <Fredrik> Roy: The hardship fund is open until September 2, so not that soon.
14:18:52 <Fredrik> Nichole: What is Maturity Model?
14:19:54 <Fredrik> janina: We are writing a Maturity Model through which an organization of any size (there's quite a lot of diferent oranizations participating in the project). The idea is that it is a way to track over time a whole series of relevant dimensions.
14:20:06 <Fredrik> janina: It is web-based because most everything is web-based today.
14:21:00 <Fredrik> janina: The idea is that we have a standardized model. The write-up of all these dimensions and the ways to track and the things to consider, the text of that is going to be finisehd soemtime this time next year.
14:21:41 <Fredrik> janina: After that, we will be focusing on writing an HTML-based frontend for the respective organszation's database (no single database, that would b etoo thorny legally).
14:22:19 <Fredrik> Nichole: As a part of another effort my company is involved in, we built something around the education space. We developed a maturity model as well, focusing on diffrerent aspects. We developed a tool taht allows us to put hte MM together in any dimension.
14:22:37 <Fredrik> Nichole: I'm curious to se if we can use our tool to be able to generate that multidimensionality for you.
14:22:48 <Fredrik> janina: You are most definitely welcome!
14:23:05 <Nichole> https://interopaccelerator.org/
14:24:16 <janina> https://www.w3.org/2017/08/telecon-info_maturity-model
14:24:51 <Roy> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/maturity/participants/
14:24:54 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:24:54 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22 -- taken up [from janina]
14:25:33 <Roy> subtopic: Web Editing Working Group Rechartering
14:25:33 <Roy> - charter: https://w3c.github.io/editing/charter-drafts/editing-2023.html
14:25:33 <Roy> - issue: https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/417
14:25:37 <Fredrik> Roy: No new charter, but we have one reamingin charter to be reviewed.
14:25:44 <Fredrik> Roy: It's the Web Editing WG charter.
14:26:13 <Fredrik> janina: We just need to look at what issues we have with them, file them, but sign off on the charter as such.
14:26:25 <Fredrik> janina: They acknowledge that they have accessibility commitments.
14:26:27 <Fredrik> Roy: That's al!
14:26:40 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:26:40 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
14:26:41 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:26:41 <Zakim> 5. A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review [from janina]
14:26:44 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:26:44 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from janina]
14:26:47 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:26:47 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
14:26:48 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:26:48 <Zakim> 6. Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues [from janina]
14:26:51 <Fredrik> zakmi, open next item
14:27:04 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:27:04 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:27:09 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:27:09 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
14:27:10 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:27:10 <Zakim> 7. new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html [from janina]
14:27:13 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:27:14 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from janina]
14:27:17 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:27:17 <Zakim> agendum 7 closed
14:27:18 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:27:18 <Zakim> 8. CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues [from janina]
14:27:34 <Fredrik> PaulG: NO meeting last week.
14:27:37 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:27:37 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, Fredrik
14:27:58 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:27:58 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from janina]
14:28:16 <Fredrik> zakim, take up next item
14:28:16 <Zakim> agendum 8 was just opened, Fredrik
14:28:22 <Fredrik> PaulG: No meeting last week!
14:28:28 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:28:28 <Zakim> agendum 8 closed
14:28:29 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:28:29 <Zakim> 9. Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open [from janina]
14:29:03 <Fredrik> janina: No actions either. It is simmertime.
14:29:07 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:29:07 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, Fredrik
14:29:10 <Fredrik> zakim, open next item
14:29:11 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from janina]
14:29:38 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:29:38 <Zakim> agendum 9 closed
14:29:39 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:29:39 <Zakim> 10. Task Force & Deliverables Updates [from janina]
14:29:55 <Fredrik> zakim, take up next item
14:29:55 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Task Force & Deliverables Updates -- taken up [from janina]
14:30:34 <janina> subtopic: FAST
14:30:37 <janina> scribe+
14:31:12 <janina> Fredrik: Since MC is leaving WAI, we're doing intense work to get it the best of MC input now
14:31:37 <janina> Fredrik: includes checklist
14:32:11 <janina> Fredrik: Issue remains to discuss with TAG their action in this area
14:32:36 <janina> Fredrik: Also recruiting
14:33:44 <janina> subtopic: RQTF
14:34:00 <Fredrik> janina: Media IG asked that FAST (or something similiar) think a lot about terminology and glossary questions, since much language is rather obscure.
14:34:25 <Roy> https://github.com/w3c/maur/
14:34:50 <Fredrik> janina: We are all of a sudden going to be busy in Github on MAUR 2.
14:35:04 <Fredrik> janina: Nowq we have things to start populating into issues that will make it into the text.
14:35:21 <Fredrik> zakim, take up next item
14:35:21 <Zakim> agendum 11 -- Other Business -- taken up [from janina]
14:35:37 <Fredrik> zakim, close this item
14:35:37 <Zakim> agendum 11 closed
14:35:37 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:35:37 <Zakim> 12. be done [from janina]
14:35:38 <Fredrik> zakim, take up next item
14:35:38 <Zakim> agendum 12 -- be done -- taken up [from janina]
14:35:57 <Fredrik> janina: Thanks everyone for your time!
14:36:06 <Fredrik> rrsagent, make minutes
14:36:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/07/12-apa-minutes.html Fredrik
14:36:42 <Fredrik> zakim, end
14:36:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'end', Fredrik
14:36:47 <janina> zakim, bye
14:36:47 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Fredrik, Nichole, janina, Roy, PaulG
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14:36:55 <Fredrik> zakim, end meeting
14:37:07 <janina> Hah! I just dismissed him!
14:37:13 <janina> Sorry!
14:37:39 <Fredrik> Hehe. I always thougth of Zakim as a colective. :)
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