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13:39:15 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: Meeting Agenda 2023-07-07: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pm-wg/2023Jul/0000.html
13:39:15 <ivan> Chair: wendy
13:39:15 <ivan> Date: 2023-07-07
13:39:15 <ivan> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pm-wg/2023Jul/0000.html
13:39:15 <ivan> Meeting: Publishing Maintenance Working Group Telco
13:39:15 <ivan> Regrets+ rickj, dauwhe
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13:58:33 <ivan> present+ kristina, gregorio
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14:00:44 <tzviya> Regrets+ Rick
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14:02:23 <ivan> chair: wendy, tzviya
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14:03:36 <gautier> Introduction of group members.
14:03:38 <duga> present+
14:04:15 <tzviya> https://www.w3.org/Consortium/cepc/
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14:05:42 <ivan> regrets- dave
14:05:48 <ivan> regrets- dauwhe
14:06:09 <gautier> wendyreid: remembering rules.
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14:08:14 <dauwhe> zakim, who is here?
14:08:14 <Zakim> Present: wendyreid, ivan, kristina, gregorio, tzviya, cristina, laurab, george, avneesh, dale, MasakazuKitahara, toshiakikoike, mgarrish, gautier, duga
14:08:18 <Zakim> On IRC I see dauwhe, duga, gautier, toshiakikoike, MasakazuKitahara, laurab, tzviya, wendyreid, mgarrish, RRSAgent, Zakim, ivan
14:08:20 <dauwhe> present+ dauwhe
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14:17:58 <ivan> Topic: EPUB3 in ISO
14:18:30 <ivan> present+ laurent
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14:18:37 <JF> zakim, who is here?
14:18:37 <Zakim> Present: wendyreid, ivan, kristina, gregorio, tzviya, cristina, laurab, george, avneesh, dale, MasakazuKitahara, toshiakikoike, mgarrish, gautier, duga, dauwhe, hadrien,
14:18:41 <Zakim> ... AvneeshSingh, JF, laurent
14:18:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see George, Dale_Rogers, JF, AvneeshSingh, Hadrien, dauwhe, duga, gautier, toshiakikoike, MasakazuKitahara, laurab, tzviya, wendyreid, mgarrish, RRSAgent, Zakim, ivan
14:19:33 <gautier> tzviya: first item in the agenda is about ISO for EPUB 3.3.
14:19:58 <AvneeshSingh> q+
14:20:10 <wendyreid> ack AvneeshSingh
14:20:17 <gautier> wendyreid: we had previous discussions. It looks like we should better get first EU recognition, that would let us some freedom before ISO.
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14:21:36 <gautier> wendyreid: ISO is using actually epub 3.0.1.
14:21:40 <ivan> q+
14:22:03 <tzviya> ack ivan
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14:22:36 <wendyreid> Q+ cristina
14:22:48 <gautier> ivan: i presume we have to do nothing wich is confortable and come back to this issue in half a year when we know where the EU commission goes.
14:22:52 <tzviya> ack next
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14:24:28 <ivan> q+
14:24:29 <gautier> cristinamussinelli: we had a meeting with the comission 2 days ago. They confirmed it would be better to have the tec spec in EU before ISO. So yes if possible it is better to wait next year.
14:24:40 <tzviya> ack ivan
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14:25:46 <tzviya> q+ to comment on archiving
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14:27:24 <gautier> cristinamussinelli: are we interested in epub for archive? it looks like there is a missunderstanding.
14:27:51 <tzviya> ack me
14:27:51 <Zakim> tzviya, you wanted to comment on archiving
14:27:52 <wendyreid> ack tzviya
14:28:00 <gautier> ivan: there is an interest, we should look at the subject of epub archive.
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14:29:59 <tzviya> ack mgarrish
14:29:59 <gautier> tzviya: we could do that, there is room for collaboration with librarian and archive world.
14:30:43 <ivan> q+
14:31:04 <wendyreid> ack ivan
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14:31:39 <gautier> ivan: there are examples at w3c of WG working with groups out of W3C.
14:32:22 <AvneeshSingh> wendyreid: q+
14:32:35 <gautier> wendyreid: there will be very few changes, maybe mainly links to ressources outside epub. Our position right now is wait and see.
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14:34:53 <AvneeshSingh> q+
14:35:47 <wendyreid> ack AvneeshSingh
14:36:34 <gautier> AvneeshSingh: an example is the work on metadata, we work on the a11y tf but refer to metadata standardizers outside of w3c.
14:36:49 <ivan> Topic: Errate discussion
14:36:56 <ivan> s/Errate/Errata/
14:37:07 <ivan> q+
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14:37:24 <wendyreid> ack ivan
14:37:29 <ivan> https://github.com/w3c/pm-wg/wiki/Extract-of-the-W3C-Process-Document,-relevant-to-this-WG's-work
14:41:29 <ivan> https://github.com/w3c/epub-specs/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:ErratumRaised
14:41:38 <gautier> ivan: i collected part of the process documents in one place. we can adress problems with markup and little changes (class 1 & 2). class 3 (clarifications) can also be adressed, but more complex. class 4 (adding features to the spec) are out of scope for us (for epub spec)... we have to take care of doing proper errata management.
14:42:47 <ivan> https://github.com/w3c/epub-specs/issues?q=is:issue+is:open+label:Status-Deferred
14:42:53 <gautier> ivan: i have defined labels on the issu tracker for class 1, 2, 3 and 4.
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14:44:06 <gautier> ivan: we have issues labeled as deferred, we may define what to do with those. This is the kind of things we should do as a maintenance group...
14:44:32 <gautier> ...we have more flexibility with notes.
14:44:47 <mgarrish> q+
14:45:08 <wendyreid> ack mgarrish
14:45:13 <gautier> wendyreid: we have a lot of notes.
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14:48:24 <gautier> wendyreid: we'll work closely with CG and BG, they are the places for incubation, we do the work of refining once it is incubated.
14:48:42 <ivan> q+
14:48:46 <wendyreid> ack ivan
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14:49:52 <gautier> ivan: what we have to decide is how we proceed. For example, the 5 ErratumRaised issues, we should do somethings between calls.
14:50:43 <AvneeshSingh> q+
14:50:53 <wendyreid> ack AvneeshSingh
14:51:06 <gautier> wendyreid: yes, as we meet only monthly we should do most of the work on github
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14:52:27 <ivan> topic: TPAC
14:52:32 <gautier> AvneeshSingh: our a11y tf work might come with edition proposals in 2 to 3 months.
14:52:33 <wendyreid> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/Overview.html
14:54:35 <tzviya> q+
14:54:51 <gautier> wendyreid: we are planning meeting at TPAC but we don't have finished an agenda yet. It will be hybrid. We won't to do incubation stuff, join meeting with others w3c groups.
14:54:55 <tzviya> ack tz
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14:55:35 <gautier> tzviya: we hope a draft agenda before august.
14:55:47 <wendyreid> https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/registration.html#inclusion-fund
14:57:29 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:57:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/07/07-pmwg-minutes.html ivan
14:57:38 <laurent_> Bye all
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