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19:01:56 <Matt_King> MEETING: ARIA  and Assistive Technologies Community Group
19:02:08 <Matt_King> CHAIR: Matt King
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19:05:17 <jugglinmike> Zakim, start the meeting
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19:06:52 <jugglinmike> [jokes and revelry]
19:13:24 <jugglinmike> Topic: Testing status and issues
19:13:35 <jugglinmike> Subtopic: Update on current testing progress
19:13:40 <jugglinmike> present+ Matt_King
19:14:09 <jugglinmike> present+ James_Scholes
19:19:46 <jugglinmike> present+ Alyssa
19:21:51 <jugglinmike> Alyssa: I can take "Navigation Menu Button" using NVDA and Firefox
19:22:15 <jugglinmike> Dylan: I can take "Navigation Menu Button" using JAWS and Firefox
19:22:20 <jugglinmike> present+ Dylan
19:23:21 <jugglinmike> Alyssa: instead, I'll take "Navigation Menu Button" using NVDA and Firefox and also JAWS and Firefox
19:24:01 <jugglinmike> Dylan: And I'll take "Navigation Menu Button" using Voiceover, along with "Modal Dialog" using VoiceOver
19:24:08 <jugglinmike> James_Scholes: Great! Thank you both
19:24:28 <jugglinmike> Subtopic: Test issue 948: "Read information about a slider in interaction mode" (Color Viewer Slider, Test 8)
19:24:39 <jugglinmike> github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/948
19:26:26 <jugglinmike> [the group reviews a conflict between results reported by Isabel and Dylan]
19:29:44 <jugglinmike> James_Scholes: I can replicate Isabel's results. If I switch to browse mode, then I observe the results reported by Dylan. I expect Dylan accidentally entered browse mode
19:29:59 <jugglinmike> Dylan: That seems likely. I'll verify and then update my results
19:30:11 <jugglinmike> Subtopic: Test Issue 947: "Open a nested modal dialog using a link in reading mode" (Modal Dialog Example, Test 27)
19:30:18 <jugglinmike> github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/947
19:33:18 <jugglinmike> [the group reviews a conflict between results reported by Isabel and Dylan]
19:36:16 <jugglinmike> James_Scholes: I can replicate Isabel's results. It sounds to me like JAWS isn't automatically switching to focus mode
19:36:42 <jugglinmike> s/focus mode/focus mode for Dylan/
19:41:05 <jugglinmike> Dylan: No matter which mode I'm in, I get the same output. I can double-check, though. It's just that I'm not good a multi-tasking, so I'll follow-up after the meeting
19:42:16 <jugglinmike> Topic: Wiki updates
19:42:39 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: The first thing I did was to insert a "left navigation"
19:42:58 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Now, instead of just a search box and a listing of all pages, the wiki has a structured navigation bar
19:43:49 <jugglinmike> [Matt_King  gives a quick review of the contents of the navigation menu]
19:43:59 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Next, I re-did the content of the home page
19:44:15 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Including information for new members and information about meetings
19:44:22 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I included a link to the W3C calendar, there
19:44:36 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Most importantly, I added a table of key resources and repositories
19:45:12 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: It's not exhaustive, but it helps folks find the work that takes place across our various repositories, application deployments, and mailing lists
19:45:35 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: We've long been talking about a "welcome kit" for new members
19:45:47 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I've added a link to such a kit for new members
19:46:07 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: The "kit" is just a draft, and I'm really interested in having other members take it and run with it
19:46:45 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I don't expect much original content in this kit, but rather an ordered list of things to look at. A "step-by-step" list--it currently has seven items
19:47:56 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: It mentions getting authorized to run tests, but that is not a link. That's an area where it would be good to have other folks involved
19:48:37 <jugglinmike> James_Scholes: Given that we're currently trying to onboard three new people, we should take a look at this and hopefully get feedback from those people
19:48:49 <jugglinmike> James_Scholes: I'm glad to see this work happening!
19:50:10 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: As I was doing this, I organized a lot of the files in the wiki. GitHub Wikis are Git repositories under-the-hood, so anyone who works on the wiki as a Git repository will be able to see those improvements
19:50:19 <jugglinmike> Topic: Working mode process
19:50:28 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Establish explicit test plan life cycle in working mode · Issue #950 · w3c/aria-at
19:50:37 <jugglinmike> github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at/issues/950
19:50:53 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Essentially, what I want to do is document the lifecycle of a test plan version
19:51:47 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: this is critical because we have zero capability to edit tests within the system
19:52:13 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: That architecture allows us to bring tests in from other sources, so it's probably the direction we want to go in the long-term
19:52:58 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I definitely want input from someone on the PAC team and someone on the Bocoup team. I'd also appreciate input from others
19:53:14 <jugglinmike> James_Scholes: you can assign it to me for the PAC side of things
19:53:23 <jugglinmike> jugglinmike: You can assign it to Carmen for the Bocoup side of things
19:53:39 <jugglinmike> topic: App development
19:54:06 <jugglinmike> Subtopic: Appp Issue 632: Questions on proposed database changes to better support #518
19:54:14 <jugglinmike> github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at-app/issues/632
19:54:31 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: This is about the data model, so I wanted to call it to James_Scholes's attention
19:54:48 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I've started to take a look at this, but I haven't had a chance to dive in deep
19:55:13 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I think some parts will inform the next issue I'm bringing up in this meeting
19:55:28 <jugglinmike> Subtopic: App issue 648 - Design Missing Test Plan Status Management Functions
19:55:35 <jugglinmike> github: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at-app/issues/648
19:56:08 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: We currently have this page called "TestManagement". Isaac has some mockups in gh-516 which we've previously discussed, but the designs aren't quite what I was thinking we need
19:56:17 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: This issue is kind of a fresh take
19:56:42 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I'm proposing changes to a table on the "test management" page
19:57:50 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: I'm really curious about what James_Scholes has to say about this
19:58:28 <jugglinmike> s/gh-516/gh-518/
19:58:56 <jugglinmike> gh-518: https://github.com/w3c/aria-at-app/issues/518
19:59:41 <jugglinmike> James_Scholes: got it; please assign me
20:00:57 <jugglinmike> Matt_King: Next meeting is Wednesday, June 7 at 10:00 Pacific
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20:23:33 <jugglinmike> Zakim, end the meeting
20:23:33 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Matt_King, jugglinmike, howard-e, Sam_Shaw, James_Scholes, Alyssa, Dylan
20:23:35 <Zakim> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:23:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/06/01-aria-at-minutes.html Zakim
20:24:13 <Zakim> I am happy to have been of service, jugglinmike; please remember to excuse RRSAgent.  Goodbye
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