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14:00:55 <Zakim> please title this meeting ("meeting: ..."), maryjom
14:00:56 <maryjom> zakim, clear agenda
14:00:56 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:01:12 <maryjom> chair: Mary Jo Mueller
14:01:40 <maryjom> meeting: WCAG2ICT Sub-group on SC Problematic for Closed Functionality
14:01:47 <maryjom> Zakim, please time speakers at 2 minutes
14:01:47 <Zakim> ok, maryjom
14:08:07 <maryjom> Agenda+ Review spreadsheet starting with 2.1.4 Character Key Shortcuts
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14:09:02 <LauraBMiller> Zakim, take up next
14:09:02 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Review spreadsheet starting with 2.1.4 Character Key Shortcuts -- taken up [from maryjom]
14:09:56 <LauraBMiller> Attendees: Sam Ogami, Maryjom
14:10:41 <LauraBMiller> Maryjom: a keyboard interface is not AT (disagree with EN standard)
14:11:02 <LauraBMiller> Requirement should apply as written.
14:12:23 <LauraBMiller> Sam agrees.
14:21:39 <LauraBMiller> Topic: 2.2.1 Timing Adjustable
14:23:15 <LauraBMiller> Yes applies. (Sam, Laura, MaryJo agree).
14:25:11 <LauraBMiller> Security Reasons for time outs not being extended would be applicable
14:26:34 <LauraBMiller> Topic 2.2.2 Pause Stop Hide
14:34:48 <LauraBMiller> MaryJoM - this should apply as-is. Phil's concern is covered by the essential exception
14:35:28 <LauraBMiller> Topic 2.3.1 Three Flashes or Below Threshold
14:35:43 <LauraBMiller> Applies as-is
14:36:00 <LauraBMiller> Topic: 2.4.1 Bypass Blocks
14:38:15 <LauraBMiller> Applies as is.
14:39:12 <LauraBMiller> Topic: 2.4.2 Page titled
14:40:44 <LauraBMiller> Laura believes that this is dependent upon the page content.
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14:43:33 <LauraBMiller> Problematic for kiosks and other closed systems. We need to extend the note.
14:44:22 <maryjom> We need to extend the note because many closed functionality products focus each view of screen content to a single function - like asking a single question. Adding a page title for each would be distracting and take the user more time to take action and complete transactions.
14:45:11 <Sam> sorry.  were having a car seat problem
14:49:16 <LauraBMiller> Topic: 2.4.3 Focus Order
14:49:22 <LauraBMiller> Good as is.
14:49:37 <LauraBMiller> Topic 2.4.4 Link Purpose (in context)
14:50:25 <LauraBMiller> Applies as is.
14:50:55 <LauraBMiller> Topic 2.4.5 Multiple Ways
14:55:22 <maryjom> The WCAG2ICT interpretation of this SC replaced "sets of Web pages" with "set of software programs" which is extremely rare - especially in for Closed functionality software.
14:56:01 <maryjom> s/in for/for/
14:57:46 <LauraBMiller> Topic: 2.4.6 Headings and labels
14:59:46 <LauraBMiller> Applies as is
15:00:15 <LauraBMiller> Topic: 2.4.7 Focus Visible  NEXT WEEK.
15:00:28 <LauraBMiller> Applies as is.
15:02:15 <maryjom> present+
15:02:17 <Sam> present +
15:02:20 <Sam> present+
15:02:28 <LauraBMiller> present +
15:02:29 <LauraBMiller> RRSAGENT, Make Minutes
15:02:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2023/05/31-wcag2ict-minutes.html LauraBMiller
15:02:44 <maryjom> zakim, bye
15:02:44 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been maryjom, Sam
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